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| chissit wrote:
Go on admit it you dont come to our place because you cant bare to see the giants lose.
Egg on Face for tea tonight Chissit?
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| I don't think we would have played any better with the two danny's playing.
Reading between the lines from Con's post I think it could be a club problem and not a player problem.But I could be way off the mark and just looking for things that are'nt there.
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"chissit wrote:
Go on admit it you dont come to our place because you cant bare to see the giants lose.
Egg on Face for tea tonight Chissit?
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how does egg on face become a meal?????
its humble pie ffs!
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| it certainly dont sound good
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"=redI've asked for posters to stay on topic once tonight already, so it's only fair to warn you that the next one goes to the bin.
Wakey or Hudds i don't mind either.'" bin me I'm knackered
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| Pathetic performance!
First time for years and years I've left before the hooter, but it was so bad it was untrue. There's a lot of questions need answering before next week.
All 17 players ought to hang their heads in shame, I don't buy into Obst having a great game at all, just because he's so small and tackles bigger blokes doesn't mean he had a good game. I counted at least three tackles he missed that led to tries.
JK needs to earn his money this week big time.
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| Quote ="RDM"Some excellent points.
As a team we have failed to defend positively for far too many seasons. I'm totally fed up with wactching our boys trot forward a couple of steps once the opposition have played the ball only to concede 10 or 15 metres because the other side are playing with PACE!
Too many players are able to get away with not playing well because they know that there's nobody fit enough to replace them.
Our captain doesn't seem to be capable of captaining his way out of a wet paper bag. He doesn't try to encourage the team after we've conceded a try (and it wasn't just today - he NEVER does it) and without the ball he just has his head down looking miserable.
The only player who came anywhere near justifying his wages this week was Sam Obst.
I dread to think how many points the Crusaders will put past us next week if the same effort is shown next week.
Forget the alleged indiscrestions of Brough & Sculthorpe (and whether they have/haven't apologised) - 16 of the 17 players on the pitch today owe all Wakefield fans a public apology for such a dire performance.'"
Huddersfield fans could say the same after the Salford game but we got it today!!!
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| I know its hard to pick out one thing in such a worful performance but the marker defence today was shocking. I lost count of the number of times the acting half was allowed to run away from the play the ball with no effort from either marker to stop them. The poor marker defence was in my opinion one of the main reasons they carved us up so easily down the middle.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Pathetic performance!
All 17 players ought to hang their heads in shame, I don't buy into Obst having a great game at all, just because he's so small and tackles bigger blokes doesn't mean he had a good game. I counted at least three tackles he missed that led to tries.
JK needs to earn his money this week big time.'"
I was waiting for someone to pick up on that.
The little guy has the heart of a lion and gives 100%. But everyone runs at him relentlessly and quins,Wigan and Shudds have all spotted him.
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| Huddersfield had a shocker last week and have turned it around, there is no reason why we can't do the same,
It's been a bad week with one thing and another i.e. disciplinary, financial? We must be due for some good news soon.
We have to pull things around soon, we did fantastically well with a patched up team, we just have to get that team spirit back - over to you JK.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Pathetic performance!
First time for years and years I've left before the hooter, but it was so bad it was untrue. There's a lot of questions need answering before next week.
All 17 players ought to hang their heads in shame, I don't buy into Obst having a great game at all, just because he's so small and tackles bigger blokes doesn't mean he had a good game. I counted at least three tackles he missed that led to tries.
JK needs to earn his money this week big time.'"
I certainly haven't said that Obst had a great game, but he did at least try his heart out in a losing battle which is a lot more than can be said for everyone else, particularly JD whose only contribution in the second half was to throw an interception and do nothing to encourage the team he's meant to be leading to pick their game up.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I was waiting for someone to pick up on that.
The little guy has the heart of a lion and gives 100%. But everyone runs at him relentlessly and quins,Wigan and Shudds have all spotted him.
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your missing the point i dont think we signed sam obst as a tackling machine did we??
how can you expect him to be an attacking half back/ hooker if hes doing 40 tackles a game??
and lets face it most of the ones today were either agianst crabtree in the middle of the line in retreat when some foeward had gone to sleep????
get me a sam obst doing 20 tackles a game and ill back a great attacking player.
get me richard moore tackling then!! likes the drives hates the hard work!
over to you
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| I just made the point that I thought Obst had a poor game today when others were suggesting he had played well. I made it 3 tackles he missed that led to Huddersfield tries. No amount of effort, heart, passion, whatever you want to call it can compensate for that.
I am a big fan of Sam's by the way, just can't understand the praise from today? No-one deserved any praise today IMO.
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| How about when it looked like there was going to be a bust up between Moore and 4 Hudds players. All Wakey players just stood there, like they did most of game
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| This must be the worst performance since the London game 4-5 yrs ago, No heart No desire and more importantly No idea!.
From the minute Jd knocked on in the 1st set off 6 we were beaten the body languange was just wrong it was as if it was a last game off the season and nothing to play for!.
Until we have a plan B instead of the 5 drives and a poor kick these kind of results will be common place down at Belle Vue!
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| Quote ="adam9641"Doubt it! I don't rate Scully as it is. He does one drive and maybe an offload then goes hiding. Wish he could play like he did for Cas but doubt he ever will
As for Broughy he is a cracking player but of late been poor.
I very much doubt them 2 would have made a difference which I am happy about. Last thing we want is to be 1 man team'"
you talk shiiit at the best of times managing to make that bell end danril look like he has more than one brain cell, but that is just absolute nonsense.
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| Quote ="Disney cat"I don't think we would have played any better with the two danny's playing.
Reading between the lines from Con's post I think it could be a club problem and not a player problem.But I could be way off the mark and just looking for things that are'nt there.
'" i can tell you for a fact, its not a club problem. its a certain players problem, and i am sure in time the truth will come out, and everyone else will be as disgusted as con is.
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| Quote ="MR BROWN"i can tell you for a fact, its not a club problem. its a certain players problem, and i am sure in time the truth will come out, and everyone else will be as disgusted as con is.'"
Well its up to the Coach to sort those players out and if getting rid is the answer then get rid.
For what its worth I dont think you will see Danny Sculthorpe in a Wakefield shirt again, I think he will be on his way out. I rate him as a player but if he or any other player are disrupting the spirit then they can go.
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"you talk shiiit at the best of times managing to make that bell end danril look like he has more than one brain cell, but that is just absolute nonsense.'"
Can't help it if I don't rate someone.
Like Grix, I think he is better than what people think. Everyone has different opinions you need to accept that.
Scully has never played for us like he did at Cas, when he was at Cas he was fantastic. If only he could play like that for us.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Can't help it if I don't rate someone.
Like Grix, I think he is better than what people think. Everyone has different opinions you need to accept that.
Scully has never played for us like he did at Cas, when he was at Cas he was fantastic. If only he could play like that for us.'"
indeed they do and i dont deny you yours. it's just my opinion that your opinion(s) is shiit!
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"indeed they do and i dont deny you yours. it's just my opinion that your opinion is shiit!'"
Exactly so you don't agree.
If Scully could play like he did for Cas he would be fantastic but sadly he has never done that.
He has the ability but just don't see it enough.
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| Quote ="RDM"Some excellent points.
As a team we have failed to defend positively for far too many seasons. I'm totally fed up with wactching our boys trot forward a couple of steps once the opposition have played the ball only to concede 10 or 15 metres because the other side are playing with PACE!
Too many players are able to get away with not playing well because they know that there's nobody fit enough to replace them.
Our captain doesn't seem to be capable of captaining his way out of a wet paper bag. He doesn't try to encourage the team after we've conceded a try (and it wasn't just today - he NEVER does it) and without the ball he just has his head down looking miserable. dont blame you captain when you have a JUDICE in you club and your captain has played through injury because his coach and team need him .
The only player who came anywhere near justifying his wages this week was Sam Obst.
I dread to think how many points the Crusaders will put past us next week if the same effort is shown next week.
Forget the alleged indiscrestions of Brough & Sculthorpe (and whether they have/haven't apologised) - 16 of the 17 players on the pitch today owe all Wakefield fans a public apology for such a dire performance.'"
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| Was Winterstein dropped or had he picked a knock up?
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| Quote ="W.T.W"Was Winterstein dropped or had he picked a knock up?'"
He was 18th man.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Can't help it if I don't rate someone.
Like Grix, I think he is better than what people think. Everyone has different opinions you need to accept that.
:buxth6epScully has never played for us like he did at Cas, when he was at Cas he was fantastic. If only he could play like that for us.[/
We (Cas) had the same thing with Korky when he came. We all thought he'd be a beaut for us, but he just didn't fit. Must be one of those 'new scene' or 'wrong face' issues I suppose.
BTW, on a serious point, do you think that Wakey can afford to loan in players to cover injuries when they are trying to loan out players to make ends meet (if that's the correct understanding of the situation I get)?
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