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| Quote ="wildycat"One of Andrew Glovers tweets: definitely going to be a good one next year, glad your a part of it Tommy.maybe this means Tommy Lee, his he staying at Belle Vue ??
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Would prefer it,if it was Tommy Leuluai!!!!!
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| Lee says he is staying on his Tweet
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| we need a decent water carrier. perhaps this is why tommy is staying, he's got the off season to work on his pace. he could do a job for us.
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| I thought Lee started well, admittedly for some reason his defence has been poor last months.
I don't entirely blame Lee, he has been played out of natural position most of the year. Once he gets a refreshing off season under his belt with little drama then we will see a better Lee back in his natural position of hkr I think.
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| I'm very much in favour of recycling, but this conversation has surely been done to death?
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| I'm happy with Ellis, Lee and Davey as starting hookers.
Personally I don't think Davey will be able to displace the other two but as long as it is picked on form I'm ok with it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm happy with Ellis, Lee and Davey as starting hookers.
Personally I don't think Davey will be able to displace the other two but as long as it is picked on form I'm ok with it.'"
Davey is above Lee in the pecking order as far as i'm concerned.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm very much in favour of recycling, but this conversation has surely been done to death?'"
Yes it has, seems I have kick started it again
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm very much in favour of recycling, but this conversation has surely been done to death?'"
we should have a poll.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Davey is above Lee in the pecking order as far as i'm concerned.'"
And that should be down to how they perform in the off season with both talent and attitude as well as this season's form. I'm happy if Davey is good enough to displace one of the other two but if it were up to me I'd start with Lee and Ellis. It's good to have the problem. We haven't really had the choice before.
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| Quote ="PopTart"And that should be down to how they perform in the off season with both talent and attitude as well as this season's form. I'm happy if Davey is good enough to displace one of the other two but if it were up to me I'd start with Lee and Ellis. It's good to have the problem. We haven't really had the choice before.'"
Personally i'd like to see a quality new stand off to play alongside Moore and rotate Ellis and Wildie at hooker. Lee should be no more than a squad player for me.
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| Quote ="PopTart"And that should be down to how they perform in the off season with both talent and attitude as well as this season's form. I'm happy if Davey is good enough to displace one of the other two but if it were up to me I'd start with Lee and Ellis. It's good to have the problem. We haven't really had the choice before.'"
I agree form should be the governing factor, and from what I have seen from both players this season Davey is the better option.
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| Well it's the new coaches job to assess how each of the players offseason goes re: development of skills, physically.
We may very well see more of Walshaw, spires, trout, Annekin this coming year.
Walshaw I have seen is a big lad and looks like a Watkins type player. I hope with a good strong offseason he will be in the frame for a centre spot.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Well it's the new coaches job to assess how each of the players offseason goes re: development of skills, physically.
We may very well see more of Walshaw, spires, trout, Annekin this coming year.
Walshaw I have seen is a big lad and looks like a Watkins type player. I hope with a good strong offseason he will be in the frame for a centre spot.'"
We need Trout to sign a contract first. This for me should be a priority, don't think we can afford to be losing him and Gledhill.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"We need Trout to sign a contract first. This for me should be a priority, don't think we can afford to be losing him and Gledhill.'"
Hoping he will sign and give it a shot. He has been at wakey years and this next year will hopefully be his transition year. Heard mainly good things and he has switched to loose which is what we are in the Market for.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Well it's the new coaches job to assess how each of the players offseason goes re: development of skills, physically.
We may very well see more of Walshaw, spires, trout, Annekin this coming year.
Walshaw I have seen is a big lad and looks like a Watkins type player. I hope with a good strong offseason he will be in the frame for a centre spot.'"
I am really trying to work out which watkins you are talking about mate because it cant be Kallum Watkins, because unfortunately from the 6 or 7 times i have seen walshaw he is worlds apart from Watkins who is still young and will improve.
Watkins has lightening pace and fantastic footwork and is exciting when on his game. He can completely bamboozle defences at times and run some fantastic lines. He can make some silly mistakes and his defence and positioning is sometimes not the best but definately a star of the future.
As for Walshaw I have seen him like i say about 6 or 7 times and not in one of those games did he trouble any defences, his positioning was all over the place, he does not have the pace to compare with watkins and to be honest for his size he is punching way way below his weight. Its my opinion that the reason why JK has not put him in the first team is fully justified because i dont think he is anywhere close at this moment in time.
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| Tommy Martyn? Does he not having something to do with the youth at Warrington?
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| Quote ="quinny"icon_eek.gif I am really trying to work out which watkins you are talking about mate because it cant be Kallum Watkins, because unfortunately from the 6 or 7 times i have seen walshaw he is worlds apart from Watkins who is still young and will improve.
Watkins has lightening pace and fantastic footwork and is exciting when on his game. He can completely bamboozle defences at times and run some fantastic lines. He can make some silly mistakes and his defence and positioning is sometimes not the best but definately a star of the future.
As for Walshaw I have seen him like i say about 6 or 7 times and not in one of those games did he trouble any defences, his positioning was all over the place, he does not have the pace to compare with watkins and to be honest for his size he is punching way way below his weight. Its my opinion that the reason why JK has not put him in the first team is fully justified because i dont think he is anywhere close at this moment in time.'"
That is fair, you have obviously seen him play many times. It's his first pro season so maybe with a long offseason to work on skills and physicality he can match the impact his frame has. I liken him more to Watkins in frame. Hopefully he can be something like but I know at present as you say there some way to go.
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| Quote ="wildycat"One of Andrew Glovers tweets: definitely going to be a good one next year, glad your a part of it Tommy.maybe this means Tommy Lee, his he staying at Belle Vue ??
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THIS WAS PINCHED OFF ME !!
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| Quote ="fat faced fan"we need a decent water carrier. perhaps this is why tommy is staying, he's got the off season to work on his pace. he could do a job for us.'"
If coach in a different way then maybe just maybe Tommy could be more effective.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm happy with Ellis, Lee and Davey as starting hookers.
Personally I don't think Davey will be able to displace the other two but as long as it is picked on form I'm ok with it.'"
If Davey can't dislodge Lee based on this years performances he may as well start washing cars for a living. Lee will need to displace Davey from what i've seen. If Lee miraculously ups his game in the hooking role then fair play and good luck to him in trying to grab a spot in the 17, but to say he is currently ahead of Davey is madness from where i'm stood.
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| Quote ="ry21"Tommy Martyn? Does he not having something to do with the youth at Warrington?'"
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| Quote ="JRKx1"THIS WAS PINCHED OFF ME !!
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Well come on board JRKX1, I get news from all over place, but I do follow AG/James E/ Hickey and many others on twitter
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| How can Tommy Lee even be thought about when we've signed Ellis. Davey should stroll into the first team before him too. And it's quite obvious he can't play S/O or S/H. Unless he gains double the pace he's got now, and manages to develop some RL skills of some sort then "1st team" and "Tommy Lee" shouldn't be said in the same breath.
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