your right

thing is it does all add up if you take your time, get all the bits and pieces and put them together.
it adds up to the wrong figure ill give you that, but it adds up ok!

It all add's up perfectly according to Wakefield's Finance department

But we are where we are, its no point going over past issues but more how we save this Club and go forward.

We said that before in the Pearman era, a fool and his money are easily parted, it is going to take more than words for hard working, badly treated Wakefield fans to depart with £1000 in these difficult economic times....

i doubt wakey will have 500 fans after all this

Fine. So what do you think we should do ?

I think there needs to be much more information made available to people to assist them in coming to a decision.

I could afford to put a grand in, but its just like anything else you spend alot of money on, you want to know what its for.

At the risk of repeating myself I also think, the club should explain what the extra GBP 150k is for, if the figure of GBP 350k is accurate as the hole in the finances, plus details of the BOD's total donations to the cause should be publicised and verified by the Accountants who are to hold the money

i doubt the fans will have a wakey after all this

I'll hazard a guess,

£350K gets us out of the mire with the TAX man, then £150K or less ensures we have enough for operating costs that see's us into the season and full revenue streams.

So that means in under 2 years the club (with the help of Sir Rodney) will have paid the tax man 700k, which suggests there has been a blatant disregard for paying our taxes for years.

Why do we need the balance, whats happened to the season ticket and other money collected from merchandise?

does it add up now why mr loyal wanted to leave, or said to some staff if i were you id find another job,, i wonder why

He could have resigned and gone to south of france for a fair few years, he respected the clubs stance not to accept a transfer fee for him. Looks like he'll be out of a job soon enough with way wakey are going.. he still has a mortgage to pay and a family to feed.

I know you dont at all like / respect the current regime. However Mopsey, you come over as a bitter and twisted individual who berates and bullies members of the current regime personally just because they didnt deem you suitable for the role.

whats that got to do with it i was stating that he knew we were skint.get your facts right or youll make yourself look silly. got a job with a propper run club anyway.

Good on you, He's a director of this club of course he knew we were skint.




Sometimes as a supporter of this club we get a bit one dimensional if your company was going to fold and you'd be without a job would you look elsewhere to secure your personal future. Being a manager at a professional sports club is not a job full of loyalty...

You're making yourself look silly; and no one will ever take you seriously.

Maybe Kear volunteered to be a sacrifical lamb/jambon in an attempt to get funds for the club so rather than being unloyal he was being more loyal than Mops could ever have imagined

they take me seriously now cause all i said came true. you just dont want to admit it.

Doesnt add up, how come the club are after 500,000 after failing to recieve 350,000 whichhas put them in debt. What was the 350,000 for? was it being lent from Peter to pay Paul? what is the 500,000 for? why arnt the club giving more information when asking for such large ammounts of money?(Together we are stronger!) what happened to Plan B? where have the debts come from? at meetings we were told that the club was operating within its means. What happened to the Brough money? what happened to the Atkins money? what happened to the Pitts money? were we making a profit when we finished 5th in the league? There are so many questions surely fans hve a right to know before donating large sums of money

Please go read the relevant threads, if I have to post what we think/know the answers are one more time my head will explode!

Could any one tell me if your playing at cardiff, have you payed the coach company who are taking you there?.
I need to know asap, as i want to buy a ticket for the match!!

Nah save yer pocket money son go and watch it on next doors telly, if they don't have one either try your usual method of watching through a shop window.

God bless the education system.

£350k was due upon outline PP being granted. Given that all indications had been positive I suspect that the club persuaded the bank to lend against this money. The bank are probably playing hardball now (although I doubt they lent anywhere near £350k). In the absence of information to the contrary I'm assuming that the debts relate to off-season costs (e.g. wages) that aren't helped with the absence of gate receipts.

The funds for Atkins went straight to the tax-man. The Brough move was cash plus Kirmond on loan - despite his value on the field, the cash value will have been substantially reduced as he was approaching the end of his contract & we won't have got a substantial sum for him (£30k max IMHO). Pitts wasn't a first team regular so wouldn't have commanded a huge fee - again £20k to £30k.

Our 5th place finish will have been unlikely to have delivered significant profits & I wouldn't be surprised if we lost money that year too.

Plan B for the stadium is still going forward.

Information is the key & those of us who are shareholders that couldn't attend the meeting will just have to see what information the club are willing to send us.

Thanks RDM.

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