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| Well, announced by MC, picked up by Google media, wakey, shortfall of £ 480 k, that's 4, or 5 good players we cannot pay for !
So I am in full support of WP, I also feel sorry for him already, he is in a week position, agreed he is aware but that does not change facts of new players & quality players. I will still buy season tickets next season but reality is less players & quality, we are up against it, I will not blame Willie if all goes wrong especially with inevitable injuries !
You can only motivate so far & in so few games, however, up the Trin.
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Well, announced by MC, picked up by Google media, wakey, shortfall of £ 480 k, that's 4, or 5 good players we cannot pay for !
So I am in full support of WP, I also feel sorry for him already, he is in a week position, agreed he is aware but that does not change facts of new players & quality players. I will still buy season tickets next season but reality is less players & quality, we are up against it, I will not blame Willie if all goes wrong especially with inevitable injuries !
You can only motivate so far & in so few games, however, up the Trin.'"
This has all been discussed already, why the over dramatic post. You do realise this applies to all clubs.
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| The other clubs have not quoted that sum, for us it's half our budget !
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"The other clubs have not quoted that sum, for us it's half our budget !'"
The sum is the same for all clubs and don’t be ridiculous, it’s not half our budget.
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| Before C C departed he announced that the club had decided to spend the money available on better players but fewer incoming.
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| When CC, Made that statement you have quoted, MC quoted £280k, now it's £ 480k, it's well known we pre pandemic spent £1.2m
So it's not far of 50℅, - however, if you have heard of a regressive tax sum, that cut of 280k hurts us more than clubs of much higher revenue, so any loss affects us greater !
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"When CC, Made that statement you have quoted, MC quoted £280k, now it's £ 480k, it's well known we pre pandemic spent £1.2m
So it's not far of 50℅, - however, if you have heard of a regressive tax sum, that cut of 280k hurts us more than clubs of much higher revenue, so any loss affects us greater !'"
That is what we spend on players it’s not the full revenue. The 480k will be spread across the entire budget. Does anyone know the clubs annual turn over pre-Covid ie the 2019 season. My guess is around the 2 to 2.5 million mark. In which case it’s approx a 20% cut in revenues. It’s bad but it’s not 50% is it.
Stop with the nonsense hyperbole, how do you think this helps?
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| We are uniquely paying for two full time coaches (with only one working at the club) which will be included in our expenditure unless this is now not the case. If so in some respects we could be putting ourselves in a worse financial position than others who are not expending money in such a way.
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| I read it that every club will see the same shortfall, but it hits clubs like ours harder due to having a smaller budget to begin with.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are uniquely paying for two full time coaches (with only one working at the club) which will be included in our expenditure unless this is now not the case. If so in some respects we could be putting ourselves in a worse financial position than others who are not expending money in such a way.'"
Do you know for sure we are still paying for 2 coaches now that the one you refer to has now gained employment, nice little dig btw although some what predictable.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are uniquely paying for two full time coaches (with only one working at the club) which will be included in our expenditure unless this is now not the case. If so in some respects we could be putting ourselves in a worse financial position than others who are 6not expending money in such a way.'"
Oh no. That would be terrible. How much are we losing doing that?
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You are just full of it. One you’ve been told that it’s coming out of MC’s pocket and two CC now has a job and even to your lame brain that means he will no longer be getting paid by anyone other than Leigh.
So he got paid after his statutory notice approx two month wages, WOW! That is about the cost of two games from a top player, how will we manage.
Now give it a chuffin rest or do us all a favour and go support someone else, maybe Cas (if you don’t already) as they could do with a ray of sunshine like you.
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Well, announced by MC, picked up by Google media, wakey, shortfall of £ 480 k, that's 4, or 5 good players we cannot pay for !
So I am in full support of WP, I also feel sorry for him already, he is in a week position, agreed he is aware but that does not change facts of new players & quality players. I will still buy season tickets next season but reality is less players & quality, we are up against it, I will not blame Willie if all goes wrong especially with inevitable injuries !
You can only motivate so far & in so few games, however, up the Trin.'"
I’ve read the comment and I may be wrong but I suspect some of that shortfall is also loan repayments that are now kicking in.
I’m guessing the delay in the East stand which should have been producing it’s first revenue by now isn’t.
I also know we are paying for the 4G pitch ourselves so ditto.
I’m saying this because I can’t find any other quote for 480k, they all seem to be around the 200k mark!
I’m just speculating.
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"When CC, Made that statement you have quoted, MC quoted £280k, now it's £ 480k, it's well known we pre pandemic spent £1.2m
So it's not far of 50℅, - however, if you have heard of a regressive tax sum, that cut of 280k hurts us more than clubs of much higher revenue, so any loss affects us greater !'"
I am glad you didn't teach me maths with your calculations you certainly know how to round up to suit your purpose!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are uniquely paying for two full time coaches (with only one working at the club) which will be included in our expenditure unless this is now not the case. If so in some respects we could be putting ourselves in a worse financial position than others who are not expending money in such a way.'"
Is that a Royal 'we' from you then as you do is put the knife in if you're not happy there are other clubs to support. You championed Chessie getting replaced now you champion the way it was done. As has been covered before do some reading on contract law and look at other dismissals there is little if any difference just how it's worded.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are uniquely paying for two full time coaches (with only one working at the club) which will be included in our expenditure unless this is now not the case. If so in some respects we could be putting ourselves in a worse financial position than others who are not expending money in such a way.'"
MC should be admired for the way that he conducts himself and the clubs business.
I've no issue with the "agreement" to pay off Chester, something that only the club and Chester will konw the detail of.
There may be something written into that agreement covering if Chester was to find new employment ?
Plenty of other clubs have got rid of their coaches and they will all be tied by any contract that may be in place.
How many football managers come and go and they wont just walk for free.
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Once again, simply untrue
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"When CC, Made that statement you have quoted, MC quoted £280k, now it's £ 480k, it's well known we pre pandemic spent £1.2m
So it's not far of 50℅, - however, if you have heard of a regressive tax sum, that cut of 280k hurts us more than clubs of much higher revenue, so any loss affects us greater !'"
If you are meaning player spend, £1.2million is correct, or would have been in 2011!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="vastman"You are just full of it. One you’ve been told that it’s coming out of MC’s pocket and two CC now has a job and even to your lame brain that means he will no longer be getting paid by anyone other than Leigh.
So he got paid after his statutory notice approx two month wages, WOW! That is about the cost of two games from a top player, how will we manage.
[uNow give it a chuffin rest or do us all a favour and go support someone else, maybe Cas (if you don’t already) as they could do with a ray of sunshine like you[/u.'"
If he won the lottery he'd moan because it wasn't a roll over.
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| Its the central funding that is being reduced by £480k not our player budget, that means the amount of cash the club (and other SL Clubs) has been reduced from £1.72m to £1.24m, so we still have more central funding coming in than the £1.2m stated. Obviously this will have an impact on the player budget, but not to the degree of 50% (even if all the £480k came off the £1.2m that's only 40%) the biggest impact will be outside of the first team budgets and that will have an obvious impact on the club as a whole. But as stated, all SL clubs face this reduction in central funding, what is more obscene is that the bigger clubs already in £1m's of debt, will still keep spending more than wakey, and those of the same ilk, which in the long run is extremely bad for the game.
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| I did say if still the case and i don’t remember reading that MC is paying his salary but if so then good for him.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I did say if still the case and i don’t remember reading that MC is paying his salary but if so then good for him.'"
It's been mentioned loads of times and even if it hadn't why wouldn't you assume that might be the case rather than making a huge issue out of very little.
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"When CC, Made that statement you have quoted, MC quoted £280k, now it's £ 480k, it's well known we pre pandemic spent £1.2m
So it's not far of 50℅, - however, if you have heard of a regressive tax sum, that cut of 280k hurts us more than clubs of much higher revenue, so any loss affects us greater !'"
Said before ,Mr Carter as said all clubs will struggle with the loss ,and we are in a better place than a lot .Some clubs are millions in det Do you think getting rid of some clubs from S L is for the good of the game .No it that the big clubs want more cash to help with there det
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| Quote ="vastman"It's been mentioned loads of times and even if it hadn't why wouldn't you assume that might be the case rather than making a huge issue out of very little.'"
Why would anyone believe that a sacked club employee would have his salary paid for by the chief executive. I don’t know what type of business you work for but tell me how many times you have come across this scenario.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Why would anyone believe that a sacked club employee would have his salary paid for by the chief executive. I don’t know what type of business you work for but tell me how many times you have come across this scenario.'"
Yeah well, this is as ever where you are wrong. Chester wasn't sacked he had his contract terminated and there is a huge difference. Sacked is a cheap journo term but you can't be sacked from a contract in the way you mean unless it's for gross misconduct. Depending on the type of contract it is you are obliged to pay it up to its completion or whatever the legal print states.
We don't know when CC's old contract ended or when the verbally agreed one was due to begin. We don't know the terms and conditions. With MC being as far as I'm aware the main shareholder in the club he may well have decided to protect his business asset by paying CC himself or at least in the short term.
Seeing how quickly CC secured new employment he won't be greatly out of pocket and it will be money he can pay himself back at a more suitable time.
Of course, I'm speculating but at least I admit it, but I'm choosing to speculate in a more reasoned and less paranoid way than you do, sometimes the most simple answer is the obvious one. Your anti-club agenda is just too obvious at times.
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