We are in a very sticky position regarding next years recruitment are we gonna trust Chester or not. Or is carter gonna sign players after some advice? Other clubs already making huge head starts on us it is a bit of a sticky wicket.
Sunday brilliant first half, 2nd half at 22-12 was getting dicey we did send some poor kicks up. The first half was the best half with probably near 90% completion.
Lino and miller gelled so well.
Next years recruitment a bit of a worry also who deciding ooc players. Tricky

You clearly know very little.

Why does he, for me he makes a good point we have a large amount of players out of contract and other players at other clubs along with our out of contract players are free to talk to other clubs soon.we at this point dont have a coach signed up for next year and at this moment in time does cc deserve a new contract no he doesnt so whos goona choose the resigning and new signings no point it been cc if hes not here although im 99% certain he wil be

You supporting him simply makes my point so much stronger, well done.



So how the hell do you or your new best bud know what's going on behind the scenes, it's absolute pure speculation unless you're one of those deluded sorts who think MC carries out the club's dealings in public.

I happen to know there are some very interesting POTENTIAL signings lined up, however, if you knew the pro game you'd know now is not the time you show you're hand.

Even if CC moves on the new coach will still be able to follow the trail or if he wishes to change it he can, After all, isn't that what you tend to want from a new boss.

But then that's what the CC out brigade never thinks through, a new coach at any club mid-season is hugely disruptive. The transition to a new coach at the end of a season is far better but it's still disruptive. You seem to want your cake and eat it.

So basically you're telling MC that he must keep CC and sign every player right now rather than waiting till later in the season when we know where we are, which is exactly what every other club does despite the OP's ludicrous assertion.

He's currently the coach. It is how it is. You are not going to go ask random people who are not part of the club are you.

You and vastly make me laugh secret insider information ‘ yawn’ this is a forum where people are entitled to an opinion - and yes the original thread makes a good point

You clearly are cluless vastman i for one am not like you i dont look to see who posted what and make a decision based on that newgroundbeforecas actually makes a valid point.

See i know enough about rugby unlike you to know different coaches have different ideas and playing styles.it seems there could be a few changes playing wise next season withthe amount ooc and if where honest its needed so what is the point of cc picking these players if he aint here (weather he should or not is for another topic)but fact is unless he has signed a new contract which the club are keeping quiet he is also ooc.as said this also applys to many players at other clubs and while i dont think playerss should be signed now we should be at least looking see whos out there and having ideas so we can act when the time is right before players sign elswhere.no i dont think mc signs playersthats why the iniatial post has a valid point.
And no mc shouldnt keep cc just to sign players in fact Currently with 1 win all season and the past 2 seasons he doesnt warrent a new deal but what he does deserve is the chance to earn one...again why the opp makes a valid point

See vasty just cos some talk trash often doesnt make everything they say trash and to be fair you prime example of that

Where have I said I have secret info?

I said potential signing, they are all potential at this stage, you do realise we are still in the first quarter of the season.

No club has next year sorted yet and that includes us.

It's not insider info it's common sense.

Yet somehow I keep being right and you keep being proved wrong.

Nothing is sorted at any club for the following season at this point in the proceeding season, it's not rocket science.

The tragedy is people like you are just looking for problems. You make them up because you wish to appear knowledgeable when you are not.

I don't know what's happening in the background at BV and I'm just as certain you don't either and I'm even more certain the OP doesn't

Why not just try and enjoy the game and leave the running of the club to those who know what's going on.

When you go out for a meal you trust the chef don't you? You don't offer him advice or stand over him whilst he cooks so why do it to MC and CC.

You're entitled to tell the chef you didn't like his version of Beef Wellington but you're not entitled to tell him how he should have cooked it.

You can criticise team selection and results, you saw them with your own eyes. You are on a far stickier wicket when you criticise what happens off the field, somewhere you never see.

It's a simple enough concept.

Come on then where am i been proved wrong did i not put on here before anyone else about the milner rummor which still may me wrong but as yet not proved wrong and in fact though most of rugby press since as linked him with us.and at the same time i before anyone else i said wood was out for months with hamstring injury at tbe time hed come off with a arm injury but it only to be officially announced he our with his hamstring...oh and i tipped a win on sunday too...now where have you been right

The original post does have a valid point indeed.

We have a lot coming off contract both at the end of 2021 and 2022.

Didn't MC hold his hand up in the last Q&A with words to the effect of that he made some bad calls historically with contract renewals and the length of some.

Sadly, some of those players with the longer term extended deals seem to be the ones who's form, for one reason or another has dipped.

Don't get me wrong, some of those stepped up at the weekend, but as they say, one swallow doesn't make a summer.

Virtually everything.

According to you, we needed at least 8 world-class props to stand a chance in SL.

By common consent, props have not been the problem, creative players have. No hookers and one HB, that's been the problem.

Only if you want it too.

Sadly this forum is now dominated by those who do.

Those who wish to live in a glass half empty world now dominate and they are happy to shout down those who don't as 'clueless'. It's like the character Unlucky Alf, he worried so much and saw the downside of everything making them self-fulfilling prophecies, that's what Trinity fans are like.

Not suggesting you are one of those but it's much easier in life to seek out negatives over positives. You can overthink anything to the point where the only disaster awaits, even though in this case it can only be pure speculation. I'll ask again, how do you know that behind the scenes things are not well on the way to being sorted for next year?

As for the zoom meeting, I think MC and JM are as honest as they can be but if you think they are giving you the full story I think you're being a touch nieve. It's like the fact that MC no longer post on here, he kept telling people the truth and they kept ignoring him and making up their own narrative. It wasn't just the abuse that made him leave it was the fact that it was a waste of time trying to explain anything.

We are no further ahead or behind any other team in SL in terms of our preparation. All teams are in the same boat with contracts ending, players going over the hil,l, and so on, why we always assume it's any worth with us just shows how insecure Trinity fans actually are. We are not a special case, nobody promised us a rose garden, we just play whats in front of us.

8 props come where have i said that and now you say virtually everything, haha

Oh and props has been an issue hence af was linked with the club and anyone who understands rugby(ill exclude you from said list) can see our props dont and haven't been making the yards required

Why is it negative i dont read nothing negative..its you thats wanting to make it negative waundering who is making possible signings and resignings as our head coach is out of contract come the end of the season or should i say who is looking at possible signings.do you believe price is looking at warringtons recruitment.....

I am neither a glass half empty or full, but comment on how I have seen our performances dip over the past couple of seasons.

Yes, we have had a terrible run with injuries, but I dont think you can pin it all on that.

What we have had is a relatively stable squad over the past few years, but sadly, a lot of our players who have been good are starting to age, and when that creeps up on you, it takes longer to recover from knocks and ailments, and that's life in general, not just contact sports.

Some players will end up moving on, but at this stage nobody knows who, or when.

Where I would suggest is the front row. Lets mot deny the fact that there has been games where our front row unit haven't ran it in, but leaving it to our backs. Yes, backs help out, but entire sets, I don't think so.

Hooker, definitely, although having said that, Walker did play well, and in the little bit of game time Bowes has had, he looks OK too.

Outside back - A possibility, though there is also Croft and Greensmith.

At the end of the day, plenty of games left, this and next year, for players to prove themselves, but it takes more than 1 game.

Think the two Woods and J C been injured may have given Mr Chester a life line He took a gamble on playing Walker at 9 .and we looked more fluent in attack. No it was not all down to him but he gave us another dimension to our attacking play ,and with the ball moving faster along the line our players were getting the ball while moving forward instead of stood still ..So my first signings would be Walker ,Jowitt and Hampshire.( He can cover fullback and halfs) The hooker from St looks as though he could do a job for us. Pity J W is going to Cas would have like him to stay ,but he is still giving us 100%.Think the gap between the 6 Money teams and clubs like us will get bigger next year as there is a lot of Australian player going back next year .So they will be offering more Cash to the better English players to come and join them

A number of off contract players put in a great performance against HKR.
We have a number off contract and views will vary on who to keep and who to let go.
I have to say we seem to be dragging our feet a little but no more than Salford, HKR, Leeds, Hull
Huddersfield, Wigan, saints, Wire, all seem to have re signed players and have players on the radar.
I think because of our early displays we are probably taking our time and reviewing the situation on a weekly basis. It should improve when a desisions are made about the manager.
Leigh are not in a position at present to offer SL contracts, but that may change,

One of the most speculative and assumption based posts I have seen

I think he’s linked with HKR now and that rumour has far more legs on it

On the one hand, you have a moan at people making supposed negative comments.

One the other hand, you just bully the hell out of people who you don’t agree with.

Can’t you just make an objective comment in response to something that you don’t agree with?

No it’s more simple than that. Most people on here aren’t the least bit bothered what I think or say. The only ones who are, are the ones who use terms like bullying. These are the ones like you who post with such authority and can’t bear it when they are called out.

Forums are full of them.

If you don’t like being answered back then don’t post, simples.

Personally I’m delighted by most of your post but some I find to plain daft and I’m happy to let you and others know.

I also accept it works the other way and I get plenty of it but I never feel bullied or complain about it.

Ta

Guys come on.
That's a series of over reactions from all of you.

Just take a breath please.

Rather than bitching at each other, try explaining why you disagree. You don't need to call the other clueless to make your point.

Personally, I think there is too much negativity on the forum but telling people they are being too negative will not change their mind.

As for the opening post, it seems like a short discussion to me.
We don't know who we are negotiating with so we don't know whether we are in front or behind other teams.
If you think it's the time to plan next season, then Chester is doing it because he is the coach.

What else is there to get upset about.

I love that. Chester gets thrown a lifeline by gambling on playing walker at 9.

Or alternatively, him and his coaches weigh up the options during the week at training. Make a selection based on knowledge and who’s available and gets a call 100% bang on. Nah forget that,it was just complete luck. Coaches!! Who’d be one?

If one of the Woods or J C had been fit Walker would not have been in the 17. And we would have seen more of the slow passing, slow play the ball .Mr Chester as had 8 games to get us playing faster with ball in hand and though it wasn't working was not willing to change things And from what I watched on Sunday .Walkers presence on the field did not affect the defence