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| That's a pretty shocking article whether accurate or not it's in play now it's going to be a bumpy time!
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| I'm afraid I've heard the same, but didn't want to believe it. Sad.
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| Seems like they have taken the news off this site almost word for word.
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| Well, one thing is for sure, and that's that it won't be cured overnight, unless CC thinks there is a group of troublemakers in the squad and aims to fire them all. If those unhappy players go into pre-season unhappy, with a coach who is unhappy with the players, our best hope for next year is that Toronto come back and then go bust again. The season is over before it starts.
When CC arrived, he said that he wanted to put a smile back on the players' faces. It has to be remembered that the players weren't smiling after a pre-season of being beasted by Brian Smith. They were fit but unhappy. He started with a fit and happy side. This gradually became an unfit but happy side. Now, he's got an unfit and unhappy side, and I can't see anything improving soon.
We've had injuries, but I'm guessing, from a non-players' perspective, that unfit squad is more likely to get injured. They are defending when tired and more likely to make bad decisions.
Too many old players, and now the generals have gone, like Finn and then Brough, there's no one left to guide them. Seeing as though things have got noticeably worse since Kear left, it's hard to wonder whether he's relied on the guile of others too much. When he's on his own, he hasn't got enough.
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| I wonder if complacency is now in play because of his close association with Carter. A player only has a limited career unless they go into coaching like Chester so why would they want to risk it. If true it would answer a lot of what is going on, his lack of responsibility, happy to blame others and a record of 5 wins out of 33.
It is now up to Carter does he want to keep his mate and see the disintegration of the club or remove Chester and give the club a chance to regroup under new leadership. If Chester is still here at the end of the season we know the choice he has taken and he must live with the consequences.
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| Perhaps the whole sorry affair will benefit by being put into the public domain (if true), and prompt action from those at the top. The one thing that is certain is that it will make Trinity look even more of an embarrassment to the RL fraternity.
Now is the time to act!
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Well, one thing is for sure, and that's that it won't be cured overnight, unless CC thinks there is a group of troublemakers in the squad and aims to fire them all. If those unhappy players go into pre-season unhappy, with a coach who is unhappy with the players, our best hope for next year is that Toronto come back and then go bust again. The season is over before it starts.
When CC arrived, he said that he wanted to put a smile back on the players' faces. It has to be remembered that the players weren't smiling after a pre-season of being beasted by Brian Smith. They were fit but unhappy. He started with a fit and happy side. This gradually became an unfit but happy side. Now, he's got an unfit and unhappy side, and I can't see anything improving soon.
We've had injuries, but I'm guessing, from a non-players' perspective, that unfit squad is more likely to get injured. They are defending when tired and more likely to make bad decisions.
Too many old players, and now the generals have gone, like Finn and then Brough, there's no one left to guide them. Seeing as though things have got noticeably worse since Kear left, it's hard to wonder whether he's relied on the guile of others too much. When he's on his own, he hasn't got enough.'"
I have to agree with you.
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| This new's will make new players think twice before joining Wakefield.All the hard work to get us on a firm footing as been blown out of the water
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| As I said previously, everyone can save face in this situation by simply allowing Poching to come in as head coach and let Chezzie be his assistant then that saves us having the expense of paying him off....what have we got to lose ???
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| Tallies up with what i’ve been hearing for a while, major size split in the camp. As the saying goes you can’t sack an entire playing squad but you can sack a coach. Sorry Chris but you have to go. If he won’t go of his own volition then Michael Carter, its time to do what as CEO it is your duty to do. And if you you would rather do what is right for Chris rather than the club then it’s time to following him out of the door as well.
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| Some on here have recently tried to reach out to MC given the performances since the restart. I reach out to all the players who take the field on Thursday against Shudds - if CC’s coaching really is the problem then....
1. in the first half put in a level of effort, commitment and performance to show us what you think about the fans and the red, white and blue.
2. in the second half put in a level of effort, commitment and performance to show us what you think about CC’s coaching.
Send the fans a clear message and we will get behind you.
If CC’s coaching is the issue then I and others who I attend games with will not renew our season tickets until a new head coach is announced and I would suggest others do the same – without players who are prepared to play for their coach and fans who do not financially back the club, there will be no club. For those who say I am no fan as this is no way to support the club - there wont be a damn club after next season if CC’s coaching is the problem and we don’t do something about it now – not in Super League anyway.
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| The players are professionals are they not. Irrespective of anything else they are being paid to do something I would have given everything to do , but sadly did not have the ability. There may be friction and dissatisfaction, but when they take the field they should remember that they are representing a community and fans who have paid good money to help pay their wages. Put differences aside and go out and give a performance on Thursday. Bloody hell by now the majority should have the ability and experience to do the basics well .
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| Chester is also paid by the club to be a coach maybe he should look at his own performances rather than trying to scatter the blame.
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| So it's a Star article so there is only so much you can take from that.
However, if true it has to be resolved. Either a clear the air meeting and resolution or a change of personnel.
If true... And I repeat that.... If true.... Then Chester hasn't got much value left and has to go.
However, if I were the new coach I'd look to get rid of the trouble causers who went to the press rather than do the best they can for the club.
There are only so many players it could be who can say they've been coached by a top coach previously.
Player revolts never work well for any club. All parties lose.
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| The only losers in this sorry saga are the fans once again, always has been and always will be .we are the ones who stick by the club when Through thick and thin and to be quite honest deserve better .Without our loyalty there wouldn’t be a club So we shouldn’t be treated like fools .All everyone wants on here is a team ,not world beaters but a team who go out and play to the best of their abilities and make the fans proud of their efforts every game .If there are tensions within the club and judging by our performances something is amiss please get it sorted ASAP ,we the fans do our bit now please do your bit and put a competitive team out on the field .
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| Chastising players rightly or wrongly through the press, has that ever worked?
Seriously duff move from Chester. Doesn’t matter how accurate the Star is, he lit the blue paper and it had to end in tears.
Tragic Trinity have returned.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Tallies up with what i’ve been hearing for a while, major size split in the camp. As the saying goes you can’t sack an entire playing squad but you can sack a coach. Sorry Chris but you have to go. If he won’t go of his own volition then Michael Carter, its time to do what as CEO it is your duty to do. And if you you would rather do what is right for Chris rather than the club then it’s time to following him out of the door as well.'"
I couldn't agree more here.
There is now no way back at a for Chester, and he needs to go.
If Carter isn't willing to make that call, then I feel that John Minards has to step in, and make that call for him, and as he his now a CEO, I think JM needs to have a serious heart to heart with MC. As he is a CEO, they are replaceable
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| Quote ="PopTart"So it's a Star article so there is only so much you can take from that.
However, if true it has to be resolved. Either a clear the air meeting and resolution or a change of personnel.
If true... And I repeat that.... If true.... Then Chester hasn't got much value left and has to go.
However, if I were the new coach I'd look to get rid of the trouble causers who went to the press rather than do the best they can for the club.
There are only so many players it could be who can say they've been coached by a top coach previously.
Player revolts never work well for any club. All parties lose.'"
The Daily Star articles were pretty accurate when they regularly broke news about the ground. Jeremy Cross has some good connections.
Agree with with the rest of what you say. Once you start publicly slating players the way Chester is you are done as a coach. If nothing is done it will fester like an open wound and infect the entire club.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"The Daily Star articles were pretty accurate when they regularly broke news about the ground. Jeremy Cross has some good connections.
Agree with with the rest of what you say. Once you start publicly slating players the way Chester is you are done as a coach. If nothing is done it will fester like an open wound and infect the entire club.'"
I was going to mention this too.
It wont be codswallop.
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| Quote ="vastman"Chastising players rightly or wrongly through the press, has that ever worked?
Seriously duff move from Chester. Doesn’t matter how accurate the Star is, he lit the blue paper and it had to end in tears.
Tragic Trinity have returned.'"
Correct The last press release by chester was the final straw for many players. There have been weeks of snide remarks about them over this season and it was obvious that eventually there would be a response.
Chris Chester is probably a decent bloke but he has spent his life in rugby league. Players are also people. He probably knows more about playing the game than most . However his ability to deal with people is very limited. You need a totally different skill set to do that and a life playing rugby league will not give you that. That is why good coaches are few and far between. People just think a person will make a good coach because he was a good player and can lead a team on the field. However it dosnt end there because a coach must be a good people manager and that is probably the most difficult part of the job.
Time to go Chris, just accept you are not up to it. You have probably tried your best but failed.
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| Its a very serious situation and MUST be addressed.
I appreciate everything MCs done but have often disagreed with many of the public statements hes made .
The clubs more important than a bunch of behind the back statement blowers and a coach that seems unable to unite and motivate a squad.
Just a couple of things need to cleared up and questions asked.
! how can the club clear out a number of players all at one time before the start of the new season
2 how do you replace the players fired or moved on. .
3 does chester remain in the position to oversee the above,
4 Should a new coach be given the opportunity to unite the squad and make signing.
5 Should MC continue
The quality of the new additions to the squad are poor , we do however have a squad that have performed well in the not too distant past .
Some players who performed well in the past have hit rock bottom is that down to coaching and fitness or have they had their day.
Its going to be an interesting time but the club need to sort it out either by a joint statement or 2 separate statements from both parties.
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"I couldn't agree more here.
There is now no way back at a for Chester, and he needs to go.
If Carter isn't willing to make that call, then I feel that John Minards has to step in, and make that call for him, and as he his now a CEO, I think JM needs to have a serious heart to heart with MC. As he is a CEO, they are replaceable'"
Totally agree with this,seems like all the frustration is directed at Carter,yet Minards is also,i believe,joint majority shareholder along with Carter.
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| I think it's been pretty obvious for some time that there is disharmony between CC and the players!
For me this has been reflected in our on field performances.
Clearly, if CC has lost the dressing room as much as that he would be better replaced as head coach.
(Fil has a good solution, in an earlier post that would cost the club little, if it could be arranged for WP to be head coach with CC his assistant - but I doubt CC would want that!)
I am also of the opinion that the onfield performances are not solely down to bad coaching - there seems to be an ethos of rebellion displayed on the pitch by some players, and that is not how they should be reacting to their dislike of the coach. They have a duty to perform to their best for their employers and some of them haven't.
They need sorting as well.
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| It’s been rumbling for months the players don’t want chezzy there anymore,sometihing has got to change asap
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