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| Following confirmation of when the lads are contracted until, where do we see them come the end of their current deal?
Tom 2022
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| Looking at the contract situation the club and the chairman has to have a lot of credit. The bulk of players thata re signed up until at least the end of 2021 are all the players you need to build a squad around and our promising talent. I know with the injuries this year it has been a depressing second half to the season but building on the core squad we have we should have some exciting times as Wakefield fans. The key to it for me is a stand out halfback (Brough due to finish career) and 2 more decent prop forwards for me.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"Looking at the contract situation the club and the chairman has to have a lot of credit. The bulk of players thata re signed up until at least the end of 2021 are all the players you need to build a squad around and our promising talent. I know with the injuries this year it has been a depressing second half to the season but building on the core squad we have we should have some exciting times as Wakefield fans. The key to it for me is a stand out halfback (Brough due to finish career) and 2 more decent prop forwards for me.'"
My thoughts too.
Now Westerman has signed, do we assume the others mentioned on various posts will follow, Pitts and Walker?
Good players but not filling posts that are light IMO - prop and half back cover.
If I see that I'm sure CC won't have missed it so maybe there's a surprise or two to come.....?
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Following confirmation of when the lads are contracted until, where do we see them come the end of their current deal?
Tom 2022
Bill 2022
Reece 2025
BJB 2020
Milky 2022
Broughy 2020
Dave 2022
Woody 2021
Ashurst 2021
Kopczak 2020
Arona 2022
Arundel 2021
Batchelor 2021
Jowitt 2021
King 2020
Reynolds 2020
Crowther 2021
Kershaw 2020
Gwaze 2020
Croft 2022
Aydin 2022
Tanginoa 2021
Greensmith 2021
Bailey 2022'"
Of these who is in the ‘overseas’. category?
From that how many overseas players could we add?
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| I would extend BJB and I'd extend Kopczak.
The kids will obviously depend on how they progress this year.
Brough is probably in his last year so wouldn't renew.
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| I agree there PT, regarding Brough.
Maybe, like they did with Liam Finn in 2018, he starts the season, but to have someone ready to replace him, and gradually move on. Whether thats a British half back or overseas, who knows.
I was looking on the NRL off contract players yesterday, and most of them that came up didn't have a lot of match day experience
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| Quote ="PopTart"I would extend BJB and I'd extend Kopczak.
The kids will obviously depend on how they progress this year.
Brough is probably in his last year so wouldn't renew.'"
Kopczak definitely, I think he has a good few years left in him and was our most consistent player this season.
BJB, I am not sure - Although he still has pace, he has lost a yard or 2 and I would expect the same to happen again in the next year, he also seemed to lack that confidence to back himself last season which he has shown throughout his career. Still a good player but going into 2021 will be knocking on the door of 33 and I would be very surprised if we did not have better options for the wing by then.
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"Of these who is in the ‘overseas’. category?
From that how many overseas players could we add?'"
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Woody 2021
Ashurst 2021
Kopczak 2020
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Arundel 2021
Batchelor 2021
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Crowther 2021
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Greensmith 2021
Bailey 2022
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Ones in Red are Overseas/Quota I believe. Think the ruling is now that you can have 7 so potentially 2 spots available
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So the budget might run to a up coming half back.
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| League Express reported that Tangata had signed for next season if so that's one overseas spot taken.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"I agree there PT, regarding Brough.
Maybe, like they did with Liam Finn in 2018, he starts the season, but to have someone ready to replace him, and gradually move on. Whether thats a British half back or overseas, who knows.
I was looking on the NRL off contract players yesterday, and most of them that came up didn't have a lot of match day experience'"
Careful what we wish for as hudds are trying to offload frawley, now that would be a step backwards
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Careful what we wish for as hudds are trying to offload frawley, now that would be a step backwards'"
Not sure I buy that, sure he's looked poor at Hudds but who hasn't, doesn't necessarily mean he'd be bad for us. He's no world-beater and I doubt we can afford him but that doesn't make him a bad player, he'd do a job.
Where I do agree with you is that at the age Fawley is now Brough was a vastly better player, thats where Hudds lost out, they didn't replace Brough with an equal, which pleases me I must say.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Not sure I buy that, sure he's looked poor at Hudds but who hasn't, doesn't necessarily mean he'd be bad for us. He's no world-beater and I doubt we can afford him but that doesn't make him a bad player, he'd do a job.
Where I do agree with you is that at the age Fawley is now Brough was a vastly better player, thats where Hudds lost out, they didn't replace Brough with an equal, which pleases me I must say.
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We could afford him if Hudds were to pay 40% of his salary
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| Have not rated Frawley this season although he has shown glimpses of what he can do. That said as FMC says does not necessarily mean he would be poor for us, in fact we usually seem to do quite well with players not deemed good enough.
Not forgetting it is his first season over here and has been playing in a side that has been swapped and changed a lot. Frawley has also played a lot of hooker so could provide us with some versatility there, not heard anything on this but if there is an option there who knows.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"League Express reported that Tangata had signed for next season if so that's one overseas spot taken.'"
Personally hope not. Filled in okay but don't really think he has enough go forward for a prop. Although, a pre-season with a super league club may do him good. How old is he?
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Kopczak definitely, I think he has a good few years left in him and was our most consistent player this season.
BJB, I am not sure - Although he still has pace, he has lost a yard or 2 and I would expect the same to happen again in the next year, he also seemed to lack that confidence to back himself last season which he has shown throughout his career. Still a good player but going into 2021 will be knocking on the door of 33 and I would be very surprised if we did not have better options for the wing by then.'"
I think BJB hit a top speed in the top 10 players this year.
His main issue is that we battered him having to take the ball up from deep like a prop. Didn't get many good passes really.
Ironically Horo was the best centre for him as he just moved the ball on quickly.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think BJB hit a top speed in the top 10 players this year.
His main issue is that we battered him having to take the ball up from deep like a prop. Didn't get many good passes really.
Ironically Horo was the best centre for him as he just moved the ball on quickly.'"
This is a really good point
We do have a bit of a throw n hope policy with our wingers at time
One thing I’d really really like to see is Brough Tanginoa, Reece and BJB really practice some plays together that come off on the field
There is so much talent and potential there
If Tanginoa and Reece work on there combinations together I see no reason why they couldn’t be our next Solomona and Domic combo
I appreciate they are not quite the same type of players but the basic big man draw and offload to a speedster basics are there
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"Personally hope not. Filled in okay but don't really think he has enough go forward for a prop. Although, a pre-season with a super league club may do him good. How old is he?'"
It’s all about opinion but your certainly not watching the same player as me.
He’s 28 if I remember rightly, what is interesting is that as far as I can tell he’s never played NRL which is a concern but the JDdidnt either so who knows.
On the plus side he’s way better than Hirst and a crocked England on the minus he’s overseas. That said if he isn’t NRL trained does he count, I don’t know I’m just asking.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"It’s all about opinion but your certainly not watching the same player as me.
He’s 28 if I remember rightly, what is interesting is that as far as I can tell he’s never played NRL which is a concern but the JDdidnt either so who knows.
On the plus side he’s way better than Hirst and a crocked England on the minus he’s overseas. That said if he isn’t NRL trained does he count, I don’t know I’m just asking.'"
I think opinions on Tangata would be completely opposite if he'd of joined St Helens or (back then) Salford but I think he's played extremely well, especially considering he joined a side with the worst form the in the league.
I think a proper pre-season with hopefully a fully fit squad will do him well, I don't see him being our best forward but despite playing alongside Big Dave and Tanginoa I don't think he'll look out of place!
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| A question for the experts on here.
He joined Fax in 2015 and will start with us in 2020, doesn't that mean he comes off quota or that he can apply for UK citizenship?
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| Having read Wikipedia, which is not always correct it states:
When a player has played for a rugby team for six years, he is eligible to gain British citizenship and does not count under the quota.
If the player has a passport for any EU nation or a Kolpak nation.
If the player is from a Kolpak nation such as Papua New Guinea, Samoa or Tonga.
Someone has also edited the page to say:
Toronto Wolfpack are exempt every rule and can field whoever they like because they are trash and will win nothing. lol
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"A question for the experts on here.
He joined Fax in 2015 and will start with us in 2020, doesn't that mean he comes off quota or that he can apply for UK citizenship?'"
Does not matter, even if he was successful in gaining UK citizenship, he would still count on the quota.
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| So despite their allegiance and the rule of If the player is from a Kolpak nation such as Papua New Guinea, Samoa or Tonga.
I'm pretty sure the following players all take up a quota spot:
Tinirau Arona - Joined 2016 and born in NZ
Kelepi Tanginoa - Joined 2019 and born in AUS
Bill Tupou - Joined 2015 and born in NZ
Dave Fifita - Joined 2016 and born in AUS
Tangata has been in the country since 2015 but is from the "Cook Islands" which isn't mentioned in the Koplak ruling agreement.
Miller joined Hull in 2013, I'm presuming he won't count towards the quota this year?
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| Tbh like tangata think he’s shown well at fax and had a really good finish for us. Improvement on annikin , hirst and big step forward over Pauli (then again so would my gran) - my only slight concern would be that he’s not the biggest and subject to who else signs could end up making a small front row - arona king tangata . At right money would be a really sensible signing and can’t really see that he’d be on quota and if so he’d qualify on residency next year
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