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| Surely the die hard Agar fans can't defend him this week. Don't give me the "it's the players who knock on etc" , Agar picks the team , coaches the team and supposed to motivate them. I hope he has the common sense to EDIT and take his pal with him.
Read the AUP and abide by it.
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| Again. Who is going to pay out his and everyone else's contracts? Who will we then employ (will need to be a decent wage to get a decent coach, plus paying a club for the privilege)?
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| He'd make a good England coach would Agar. They never pick on form either. I felt confident today but then I looked at the team and thought we'd lose.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Again. Who is going to pay out his and everyone else's contracts? Who will we then employ (will need to be a decent wage to get a decent coach, plus paying a club for the privilege)?'"
He won't be replying for some time, if at all.
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| Sell Washbrook and Ryan and use their wages to pay him off. Joke of a coach.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Sell Washbrook and Ryan and use their wages to pay him off. Joke of a coach.'"
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| Quote ="Willzay"Sell Washbrook and Ryan and use their wages to pay him off. Joke of a coach.'"
Sell them to who? Who has money to buy player Wakey don't want?
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| Bradford for a start.
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| I think maybe a change of captain and a few motivational courses attended before anyone is sacked.
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| Mathers dropped?
Why break up a half back pairing that's starting to gel
Sykes at full back ?
Tautai dropped from the starting line up in favour of Washbrook
Dan Smith out of the 17
All of the above are strange decisions.
Then there's the lack of motivation in the team
Then there's an apparent lack of fitness
What's going on
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| Agar is a baffling coach. He never could get his head around bench-rotation.
He was officially the most hated coach ever at Hull FC since Peter Walsh and now you're seeing why.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Mathers dropped?
Why break up a half back pairing that's starting to gel
Sykes at full back ?
Tautai dropped from the starting line up in favour of Washbrook
Dan Smith out of the 17
All of the above are strange decisions.
Then there's the lack of motivation in the team
Then there's an apparent lack of fitness
What's going on'"
Today was terrible and a very costly defeat. Whilst a lack of a real alternative and a lack of funds to pay him off means Agar should stay for now he needs to explain his thinking behind his rather strange team selection.
And for the record Siejka at hooker wasn't any improvement on Wildie. Now he has had a combined 30 minutes in a couple of games I expect him to be binned off to a lower league club. I mean that is the protocol isn't it?
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Agar is a baffling coach. He never could get his head around bench-rotation.
He was officially the most hated coach ever at Hull FC since Peter Walsh and now you're seeing why.'"
Every ex coach is the most hated FC coach, it's the default setting of many FC supporters who still consider themselves to be "all that".
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| Just keep it simple Agar....when your team plays well against the potential Super League champions and almost beats them one week ...play the same team if possible next week....don't start tinkering as you'll face more criticism if it backfires which this has massively.
Looks like we lacked fire power in the middle of the field with a smaller pack and missed Daniel Smith plus more minutes with Tautai at 13 which in effect means playing with 3 props in the middle most of the match against a big powerful pack.
Probably also missed Mathers attacking ability joining the line.
Have we brought Siejka in too early? What has he contributed so far? Think his introduction should have been phased in through necessity of injuries/form rather than a shoe horn. Losing Wildie for a month is a mistake.
He needs to look at the squad and surely he knows his best 17 today after this result?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Mathers dropped?
Why break up a half back pairing that's starting to gel
Sykes at full back ?
Tautai dropped from the starting line up in favour of Washbrook
Dan Smith out of the 17
All of the above are strange decisions.
Then there's the lack of motivation in the team
Then there's an apparent lack of fitness
What's going on'"
It's a strange decision to change anything from last week as by and large we were beaten by the ref.
Then for Agar to claim some of the players weren't committed today is a bit of a faux pas IMO.
Maybe he shouldn't have ed about too much with last weeks squad?
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Today was terrible and a very costly defeat. Whilst a lack of a real alternative and a lack of funds to pay him off means Agar should stay for now he needs to explain his thinking behind his rather strange team selection.
And for the record Siejka at hooker wasn't any improvement on Wildie. Now he has had a combined 30 minutes in a couple of games I expect him to be binned off to a lower league club. I mean that is the protocol isn't it?'"
Seijka was poor today. He was dropping off tackles and making poor choices. Matty would gave been far better on that showing, but then so would Mathers at FB and Smith in the pack.
I'm not in the 'Agar out' camp, but I am in the 'what were you thinking?' Camp!
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| As a long time supporter of Agar, and I also didn't go today so can't comment on the play but I'd have to say this one is squarely at his door.
I wouldn't have changed the team like that.
I did say KR were no mugs and it wasn't going to be easy.
And maybe we can stop the Mathers threads now? It never works when we drop him.
But this was a big game and we needed better.
Still doesn't mean I want to sack him.
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| Quote ="TRB"Seijka was poor today. He was dropping off tackles and making poor choices. Matty would gave been far better on that showing, but then so would Mathers at FB and Smith in the pack.
I'm not in the 'Agar out' camp, but I am in the 'what were you thinking?' Camp!'"
He was poor, but then he isn't a hooker so it isn't a surprise. Wildie is though. But Agar knows best.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Mathers dropped?
Why break up a half back pairing that's starting to gel
Sykes at full back ?
Tautai dropped from the starting line up in favour of Washbrook
Dan Smith out of the 17
All of the above are strange decisions.
Then there's the lack of motivation in the team
Then there's an apparent lack of fitness
What's going on'"
I couldn't agree more; all of those changes were made to accommodate Washbrook coming back, who was dire before his injury and remains so, only less fit and more rusty.
For a team just finding form, to tinker to such an extent was madness; I can't imagine what was going through RA's head.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I couldn't agree more; all of those changes were made to accommodate Washbrook coming back, who was dire before his injury and remains so, only less fit and more rusty.
For a team just finding form, to tinker to such an extent was madness; I can't imagine what was going through RA's head.'"
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| If Mathers was dropped, why not give Jowitt a run and leave the rest unchanged; Smith has been our best forward, Tautai is pulling up trees and our half backs have looked really dangerous. Let Washbrook force his way back into the side by training hard or doing a few weeks at Dewsbury.
Baffling.
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| Quote ="bren2k"If Mathers was dropped, why not give Jowitt a run and leave the rest unchanged; Smith has been our best forward, Tautai is pulling up trees and our half backs have looked really dangerous. Let Washbrook force his way back into the side by training hard or doing a few weeks at Dewsbury.
Baffling.'"
This.
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| Why has Washbrook been brought straigt back into the starting line up, it's not like he's a superstar who we can't do without is it!
He was preferred in the run on team to Tautai who's been our best forward this season. Washbrook was very poor today (not unexpected) he was missing tackles and the ball was dead everytime it went to him.
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| I agree Tautai is our best forward this season, ashame about his hand injuries. Smith should of kept Raleigh out, Washbrook should be playing at Hunslet to go with other people on his level like Bailey!
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| Quote ="bren2k"If Mathers was dropped, why not give Jowitt a run and leave the rest unchanged; Smith has been our best forward, Tautai is pulling up trees and our half backs have looked really dangerous. Let Washbrook force his way back into the side by training hard or doing a few weeks at Dewsbury.
Baffling.'"
Its seems daft shuffling the whole squad if mathers is injured, why make so many changes.
Can't figure it out.
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