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| do me a favour no gaps created no brute strength apart from Ali try. Mariano would have made things easier we have a coach that cant be bothad to change his so called bad ways pathetic. Malloy and Mellars no comparison. Total joke. 8 game winning streak with Frankie in team. Lynn v Cowling
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| even if you dont like Mariano. Walshaw , Trout we can train up. Cowling we can train up to be better than Lynn what would Alex Ferguson of done? POOR
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"do me a favour no gaps created no brute strength apart from Ali try. Mariano would have made things easier we have a coach that cant be bothad to change his so called bad ways pathetic. Malloy and Mellars no comparison. Total joke. 8 game winning streak with Frankie in team. Lynn v Cowling
LETS WASTE THE CLUBS MONEY #SIGNPLAYERSWEDONTNEED.'"
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| He seemed really promising in pre season, but since his injury seems to have lost confidrnde
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| After a promising start Lyne is turning onto a major disappointment. The lad seems to have no belief in himself whatsoever.
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| You will have to get them up to speed as Mariano is with us until at least end of season
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| Sorry to say today but Lynne was getting pushed off and losing every collision he entered on the field.
I hope he can sort it out but he should be nowhere near the first team at present.
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| I don't understand why the squad was changed to put him in. Why not leave mellars at centre and play Wildie off the bench. Aiton can always switch to the backrow for a spell.
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| It was a strange call indeed to make as Lynne has been in bad form last few games he's played.
Hopefully mathers is back this week and smith can slot back in at centre.
Andy Raliegh looks a shadow of last season. Looks to lack fitness and losing too many collisions. Hope he turns it around.
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| Quote ="jtfev"You will have to get them up to speed as Mariano is with us until at least end of season'"
Can't he be re-called like any usual loan signing?
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"It was a strange call indeed to make as Lynne has been in bad form last few games he's played.
Hopefully mathers is back this week and smith can slot back in at centre.
Andy Raliegh looks a shadow of last season. Looks to lack fitness and losing too many collisions. Hope he turns it around.'"
Defence sounded solid for the big minutes he put in. There was no way we should have played like we did going down the middle.
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| Totally the wrong tactics playing so much down centre...
Also Raliegh leaked yards ifrom what i saw and failed to come out of the line 2 yards forward and decided to run lateral to a much faster player. He doesn't look fully fit atm to me. He can hopefully claw that form back from last year.
Not our best today by a fair distance which was a shame.
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| Team didn't put a foot wrong last week against Catalans so why does Agar make changes to accommodate the utterly average Rhys Lynne? One break against London and hes now a Keith Senior or a Greg Inglis. Agar's baffling team selections and favoritism toward certain players is getting a bit irritating. Exactly why he ended up alienating the fans at Hull. How can Lynne and Molloy walk straight in the squad with hardly any game time yet likes of Cowling, Trout and Mariano get farmed out, this must be doing wonders for their confidence. I heard Agar was approached for the vacant Cas job I'd have driven him myself.
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| Hard to disagree with the team selection part tbh...
But lets not go bagging him again. He has done a pretty good job so far and think he can take us further still.
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| Lynne is a passenger, i put more effort in tonight than he did.
I know the "Agar knows best" bunch will be along but you can't defend his performances.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Hard to disagree with the team selection part tbh...
But lets not go bagging him again. He has done a pretty good job so far and think he can take us further still.'"
I'm sorry to say, I don't think he can. We were a poor side for 2/3 of last year and Agar's team selection and tactics were a big part of the story. I gave Agar credit when it was due; we seemed to have turned a corner. Then we start this season not much better than the last and Agar and his team selections get back to mystifying. I am beginning to think he just got lucky and got his hand forced into playing people like Mariano, who is a far better player than his little pet player chums who walk in the side. As for Lyne...any coach who cannot see how out of his depth that boy looks is not worth his salary.
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| Quote ="trin77"Team didn't put a foot wrong last week against Catalans so why does Agar make changes to accommodate the utterly average Rhys Lynne? One break against London and hes now a Keith Senior or a Greg Inglis. Agar's baffling team selections and favoritism toward certain players is getting a bit irritating. Exactly why he ended up alienating the fans at Hull. How can Lynne and Molloy walk straight in the squad with hardly any game time yet likes of Cowling, Trout and Mariano get farmed out, this must be doing wonders for their confidence. I heard Agar was approached for the vacant Cas job I'd have driven him myself.'"
Mate you are spot on his favoritism really is a weakness this is what i put 2 month ago. Great post
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| Lyne was doing well at the beginning of the year. He has lost confidence (the injury? who knows) he needs to start backing and believing himself!
If you look where we were last season to where we are now then you'll be pleased, others teams have improved also putting pressure on us. Its funny how people start slating team players when they know nothing behind the scenes etc. Yes I believe Mariano is a good player, better than both Mellars and Molloy as what I have seen but if he has attitude problems when it comes to training or whatever then he should be tought a lesson. If you look at the quality and amount of money Hull FC have within their squad they should be beating us by alot more than that! Their defence was solid tonight and thoroughly deserved as I believe we didn't turn up at all, when we started to step it up a gear they closed down, Smith, Wood, Cockayne and Fox.
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| The question in the thread title is mind boggling really.....
The difference in what all 3 can bring to our side when on the field of play is unreal....
If Mariano has attitude/training problems then that's up to the coaching staff to earn their money and sort it out and get Frankie on the field of play doing what he does best.....a crying shame really.....
On the selection tonight.....it was maybe a call to Reece to say go on lad prove all those at Hull wrong......it didn't work and he needs his confidence building back up.....he wasn't the only player to be short of his best though.....think he still has potential....
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"I'm sorry to say, I don't think he can. We were a poor side for 2/3 of last year and Agar's team selection and tactics were a big part of the story. I gave Agar credit when it was due; we seemed to have turned a corner. Then we start this season not much better than the last and Agar and his team selections get back to mystifying. I am beginning to think he just got lucky and got his hand forced into playing people like Mariano, who is a far better player than his little pet player chums who walk in the side. As for Lyne...any coach who cannot see how out of his depth that boy looks is not worth his salary.'"
Got to ask how did Agar get his hand forced into playing people like Mariano last year, who when fit was just about always in. Also who are these pet player chums you speak of? Over reaction or what.
As for Lyne he played really well in the first few games and looked like a very good signing, we even had a few threads about him but he has seemed to have lost his confidence of late. Wasn't it hull earlier in the season where he had his other poor game, coincidence?
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| Quote ="El Rey"Lynne is a passenger, i put more effort in tonight than he did.
I know the "Agar knows best" bunch will be along but you can't defend his performances.'"
Hard to argue with that - he looked totally over-awed tonight; the few times he did carry the ball, he was finding the ground before the tackler laid a hand on him.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Got to ask how did Agar get his hand forced into playing people like Mariano last year, who when fit was just about always in. Also who are these pet player chums you speak of? Over reaction or what.
As for Lyne he played really well in the first few games and looked like a very good signing, we even had a few threads about him but he has seemed to have lost his confidence of late. Wasn't it hull earlier in the season where he had his other poor game, coincidence?'"
As I recall, Mariano couldn't get a look in in Agar's plans 1st 2/3 of season, though I stand to be corrected. Suddenly he got picked and was a major eason we did so well in my view..then here we are again and he's off to Featherstone. I read there have been attitude problems...well we don't know what goes on behind closed doors I suppose, but I'm pretty sure Rhys Lyne does not look ready now for SL and I'm not sure he ever will. He reminds me of someone like Paul White. Loads of pace. Can rip a side up in the championship but is just too lightweight fo SL. I may be wrong about the future, but at the current time he he an obvious weak link in the side and should not be playing. We seem to have binned players like Mariano and Ellis who made us look a stronger side. We now are back to Wakefield light, as we were early 2012. We were very good v Catalan...and Agar tinkers and brings Lyne back
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Got to ask how did Agar get his hand forced into playing people like Mariano last year, who when fit was just about always in. Also who are these pet player chums you speak of? Over reaction or what.
As for Lyne he played really well in the first few games and looked like a very good signing, we even had a few threads about him but he has seemed to have lost his confidence of late. Wasn't it hull earlier in the season where he had his other poor game, coincidence?'"
Lyne, Mellars for a start off.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"As I recall, Mariano couldn't get a look in in Agar's plans 1st 2/3 of season, though I stand to be corrected. Suddenly he got picked and was a major eason we did so well in my view..then here we are again and he's off to Featherstone. I read there have been attitude problems...well we don't know what goes on behind closed doors I suppose, but I'm pretty sure Rhys Lyne does not look ready now for SL and I'm not sure he ever will. He reminds me of someone like Paul White. Loads of pace. Can rip a side up in the championship but is just too lightweight fo SL. I may be wrong about the future, but at the current time he he an obvious weak link in the side and should not be playing. We seem to have binned players like Mariano and Ellis who made us look a stronger side. We now are back to Wakefield light, as we were early 2012. We were very good v Catalan...and Agar tinkers and brings Lyne back'"
If I remember rightly he was injured at the start of last season for the first 7 or 8 games or something, played 15 games last season in the end.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Lyne, Mellars for a start off.'"
Mellars was dropped for a bit wasn't he, then came back and has done well, certainly not enough to be dropped and also provides cover for a few positions, so I don't get that one.
Lynes's been injured and not come back the player he was before.
Without the reserves it's must be hard for a coach to get players back match fit or find out if they are in form
Thing is just because he puts players in you might not like or agree with, doesn't make them his favorites.
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