Im not saying get rid of agar but why not let glen morrison have a couple of games in charge surely the team may respond better to a former player. We lack heart/interest. No pride in the shirt.

Undermining the coach and who's to say how Morrison would bet them paying any different, he's got no experience at all.

You may not be saying don't get rid of Agar but I am. The guy is just picking up wages. He has no passion for the game at Wakefield, it is always going to be better next game. At the end of the season when we have the wooden spoon will it be next season. The bloody guy is too stick in the mud playing the same useles people (Smith,Mathers) week in week out not one of the young players will get a chance while we have this p---k at the helm. Bring JD in and he would do a better job, at least he has a passion.

time to cut our losses the crouds are up we need to get winning again.but if he goes who is there

after watching a shocking performance last saturday i went and watched some of the old wakey boys and jd on sunday. obsty and young davy had a great game. jd played with passion and leadership. korki ripped into the front rowers with some real aggression. tonight we lacked leadership, aggression, pride and inspiration. when i came away tonight after watching our boys i found myself wishing we had still got korki, sam and someone with a leadership and desire that jd brought to the club. our front row is practically non existant. i said before the start of the season, don't throw the baby out with the bath water but thats what we did. now we are left with a team of individuals. no desire no team spirit no will to win. we did better last year against castleford with a few old hands and a load of young lads that wanted to play

I am

i would agree with that. don't think morro would make any difference whatsoever. think the only thing that will make any difference is a couple of good front rowers. a few changes. possibly highton to 13. woody and ellis interchange and maybe we will work out how to keep the captain on the park for a decent spell each game

All true. I am very puzzled as to why we set about assembling a squad before we had appointed a coach. I am equally puzzled as to why we let a coach go with years of experience and a proven track record at exactly the time we needed a strong, experienced head to guide a new squad, and replaced him with a relatively inexperienced coach with very little in the way of a track record and 15000 very relieved Hull fans smiling to see the back of him. It's very frustrating because generally speaking, I think we are going in the right direction as a club, it's just that, for the same outlay, we could have had a more balanced and effective squad and a better coach. We are struggling from some bad recruitment choices in the pack and the ill-advised appointment of Richard Agar.

I know there are people who like to stick up for the club on here no matter what and all credit to them but I personally see no future under Agar and the general consensus around me in the North Stand tonight was that the fans want to see him go before he writes the season off.
I feel Agar was a beaten coach before he got the job at BV and will have been aware of the copious amount of doubters. I think his lack of confidence may have been infectious. I still feel a Poching or Jason 'Richman' Demetriou character with 99% backing from the fans and possibly players would have been the way forward.

AGAR OUT!!!

Like it or not we are lumbered with RA for at least this season I would think cos of the length of his contract and the pay off involved and the fact that I reckon it is a boys club with him and Elston and can't help thinking that AG was hoodwinked into his signing as he probably knows about as much about what makes a good coach as I do about selling windows.

i'd agree with all of that, i would also had that if jk had had the money and resources that this guy has he would have made sure we got the basics to start the season. 2 halves and a decent pack. we have been dominated in nearly every game in the front row. the halves don't get a chance to work. someone needs to ring the changes and someone needs to let agar and the boys know how much a lot of the wakey faithful are hurting at the moment. at least the academy lads last season gave 100%

Thats not the first time i've heard that theory but you'll get shot for saying it.

May well do but only saying what I think as fan looking in from the outside cos don't think RA would have got a job anywhere else certainly not SL anyway and think JE has to take the responsibility for this one.

No other SL club would have offered Agar a job, so why did we offer him a long term deal, we could have offered him a short term prove yourself deal and he would have taken it.

Sorry to say it but Glovers been hoodwinked on this one and it will undo all the great work thats been done, not to mention all the money.

Agree 100% the clock must be starting to count down now will wait for the "need time to gel excuses" to start again.

guys, im sure you're sick of hull fans coming on here and saying told you so, but the main thing he did at hull was lower the average crowds down from over 14k to 11k in less than 3 seasons (and we are still paying for this now). you have been getting some excellent crowds recently and could be in danger of losing a lot of these hard won fans if you carry on like this

Agar this week - "The players need to look at themselves in the Mirror."

It's proper Matrix down at Belle Vue! How many incarnations of the same coach do we need?

I think and a lot on here thought at the time we had to start buying, we were already behind the eight ball because we had been planning to move down a division and at that time a lot of the talent had been snapped up or signed longer deals where they were. I'm sure the club thought they were doing the right thing at the time, by the time Agar came who would of had to choose from on the market. I remember when he did get appointed there was a list doing the rounds, with all OOC players and the choice was poor.

I was one of those people that said a new side with 18 new players would need time to get used to each other, imo if you don't think a team needs time to gel with that many changes, you know naff all about team sports but like I said last week, that time has been and gone and we have gone backwards even from the Widnes game.

hull were gash under agar even though their budget was a hell alot more than ours. No wakey fan wanted him here, don't get me wrong I didn't expect Craig bellamy but I would have had Daryl Powell over agar any day of the week.

You know i wasn't a fan of Agar getting the job but i was willing to give him a go. Well quite frankly we are crap and getting worse the longer it goes on. Lets just say i wouldn't be unhappy if he got the bullet soon. He's got til this time next week, by which time will be bottom of the table and out of the cup. Then he can go.

TBF although we may have been poor and lacking desire, the late withdrawal of Kirmond and injuries to Lauitiiti and Mathers meant any recovery was even less likely.

No point in whingeing about the coach, we're stuck with him for the foreseeable future. He knows the last 2 performances were unacceptable and he has to take responsibility for them and do something about it.

The complainers could at least wait till next week when we could quite possibly be bottom of the league an out of the cup.

like it or not we are stuck with Agar and JE unless Mr Glover pays them both up this situation could only happen at Wakefield

He knows it was unacceptable? It was an improvement according to this....

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Yes Richard it was an improvement. Thats because the london game was so bad. Stop blaming injuries, every club gets them and to be honest we've done ok with them so far. The problem is we have under performing players and a coach who has no idea what to do about it. We look clueless, end of.

Yep, lets wait untill we hit the iceberg before we complain, thats just the ticket.