Do we know for certain who is not with us this year from the 2011 squad?
i.e.
Griffin
Johnson G
Korki
Blaymire
Murphy
etc

Smith J ? etc

it will give us an idea of how many in / out

Hickey, how could I forget!

All of the above plus Gledhill, George, Rinaldi, Lee, Dean, Tadulala, Veivers and Henderson.
Nobody seems to know about Tongia.

does anyone know if tongia has a twitter page.?

j smith has been training today
also kevin penny?

has he re-signed for this season?



Kevin Penny....could be a potent try scorer with good service but to be honest, i'd hope Widnes would of kept him.

Hyde- I am not sure where he will fit in, so I guess we'l see him going to the championship on dual reg, with Gareth Moore.

Check here for your information viewtopic.php?f=2&t=497140

Check here for your information viewtopic.php?f=2&t=497140

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater heres kevin penny and motu tony (think i mistook somebody else for j smith)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater heres kevin penny and motu tony (think i mistook somebody else for j smith)

Smith gone
Penny being released
Moore not going on dual
Hyde is going on dual

Quote ="Frosties."Check here for your information viewtopic.php?f=2&t=497140'" Where's that information from? It says we have still got Tongia?!?

Quote ="Frosties."Check here for your information viewtopic.php?f=2&t=497140'" Where's that information from? It says we have still got Tongia?!?

It also states that we have signed Matt James, and seeing as he is in the training squad photos from yesterday, it makes you wonder when the club is going to announce it formally...





Cas's new signings look impressive.....NOT !!!!

Had a quick search on twitter for tongia and found a link to this article on facebook: www.facebook.com/fortafy/posts/232493363477188 Article from last week, says he's still a wakey player.....

Had a quick search on twitter for tongia and found a link to this article on facebook: www.facebook.com/fortafy/posts/232493363477188 Article from last week, says he's still a wakey player.....

I hope he is still on our books, I was impressed with what I saw of him this season.

looking at other threads, it seems 90% of last years squad has gone,i.e.

Griffin,Johnson G ,Korkidas, Byaymire, Murphy, Hickey, Gledhil, George, Rinaldi, Lee, Dean, Tadulala, Vievers, Henderson, King, Smith J, Tongia?(17)
incoming
Fox, Cockayne, Collis, Mellars, John, Smith T, Wilkes, Amor, Raleigh, Ellis, Washbrook, Lautiti, Southern,Masseleot,Kirmond(15)
plus retained-
Morton, Penny, Hyde, Walshaw,Moore, Wildie, Davey, Morrison, Higgins, Mariano, Johnson P, Haworth,Tony(13) etc from 2011
17 out 15 in approx plus 13 retained. Also Jordan James and other rumours! Amazing new squad.

We have always had a revolving door but this must be the biggest ever turnover for us, unless you know different.
Incoming players have much more class and experience. Can't wait.

So looking at the list of retained and signed from above we look a bit like this at present:

[uFullback[/u
Cockayne, Tony, Hyde(Dual-Reg?)

[uWing[/u
Fox, Morton, Penny(released?),Tongia(keeping?)

[uCentre[/u
Collis, Mellars, Walshaw

[uHalfback[/u
Moore, Wildie, John, T Smith

[uProp[/u
Wilkes, Amor, Higgins, P Johnson?, Raleigh?, Spiers

[uHooker[/u
Ellis, Davey

[uSecond Row[/u
Mariano, Southern, Masselot, Kirmond, Trout

[uLoose[/u
Morrison, Washbrook, Haworth


Not sure whether I've missed anyone or where some of these are going to play but it looks to me like we are still light on the wing and possibly at prop depending on where Johnson and Raleigh are expecting to play.
Rumours abound that Penny has been released and that Haworth maybe on his way. Currently that is 30 players, a couple out maybe and a couple in to come.

Overall, looks a decent squad but we're still up against it to try and make the playoffs next year, just hope that people will give them time to gel and not set expectations too high.

Penny won't simply be released. Why would this be in his interests? He won't simply walk away from paid and guarenteed employment unless he has something else lined up, or compensation from us and the prospect of something else lined up.

Not sure if many will agree with me here but i thought Johnson looked better at prop than he did at second row and he looked to be trying to bulk up through the year? if he does this in pre season with Martin Clawsons help he could be a very good prop and with him and Amor starting with Wilkes and a good big prop on the bench with Raleigh and Higgins to back up wouldnt that be enough at prop? any more and we could just be overloading.

Difficult to keep track isnt it.
Fordy missed out Kyle Wood and 68 missed out Morrison.
Just tried it myself .
Almost impossible to remember everyone.
How are the coaching team going to cope at first.
Er you whats your name stand here.
Tommy take first receiver.
Oops hes gone.

Raleigh wouldnt leave 2 years of a giants contract to be back up at wakefield.

It's all about the wonger

not with him its not, he'll be starting.

Then he shouldnt have been signed, we have players who can be better than him and 2/3 second rowers better than him in my opinion in Mariano, Southern and Morrison. hes not a starting prop either so unless hes starting at LF which should be either Washbrook or Howarth i cant see where he will be starting. Nobody should be starting automatically especially with the squad we have.

Happy with Slats signing, not happy releasing Howarth www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news ... m/2011/11/

Happy with Slats signing, not happy releasing Howarth www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news ... m/2011/11/

Surprised at this,thought Howarth might have been kept on. It will though free up some cap space. The rest I agree with. No mention of Hendo though!

Agar has signed people because he believes they are better than what was at Wakey, be that Raleigh, Kirmond, wood, Washbrook etc Obviously as the season goes on things can change but Agar has in mind his best 17 and i'm pretty sure that at this moment in time Andy is in that.