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If anyone's feeling nervous about the prospect of the Newmarket application being called in by the office of the SoS I would advise running a simple search on the number of public inquiries had have been called since the new government took office.
Simply follow the link
communities.gov.uk/planningandbu ... in-search/
and search for "called in: active" during the dates of May 16th 2010 and the current date.
Your answer:
[i"Sorry, your search did not return any results."[/i
A grand total of 0.
I for one think we're onto a winner here!
Hence the arrival of desperate fans from rival teams.
IMO the push by LCC is based solely on their own industrial designs on their side, by pushing here (even if they fail) they will have a stronger case for wanting to develop their side of the junction using the - "well you gave them one" argument to the fullest extent possible. There's no issues of local or regional significance here; the LCC are purely testing the water. Because FWIW I think they're a little "miffed" they didn't get in first (for once!).
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If anyone's feeling nervous about the prospect of the Newmarket application being called in by the office of the SoS I would advise running a simple search on the number of public inquiries had have been called since the new government took office.
Simply follow the link
communities.gov.uk/planningandbu ... in-search/
and search for "called in: active" during the dates of May 16th 2010 and the current date.
Your answer:
[i"Sorry, your search did not return any results."[/i
A grand total of 0.
I for one think we're onto a winner here!
Hence the arrival of desperate fans from rival teams.
IMO the push by LCC is based solely on their own industrial designs on their side, by pushing here (even if they fail) they will have a stronger case for wanting to develop their side of the junction using the - "well you gave them one" argument to the fullest extent possible. There's no issues of local or regional significance here; the LCC are purely testing the water. Because FWIW I think they're a little "miffed" they didn't get in first (for once!).
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| bloody greedy LCC , should mind thier own buisness - hypocrites!
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| I think in their own round about way they are.
They have no agenda for saving green belt land- for gods sake look at their own record for developing on green belt land within their own boundaries.
I think they want to develop their side, just as they did in the 90's. By opposing they are complying with legislation dated over a decade ago (out of date with current economic climate & requirements), so when NM is given the green light they have a precedent for not only developing on green belt land (in this particular area) but also meeting the needs of regional economic and industrial targets- lets not forget that NM doesn't totally meet the requirements for B8 warehousing.
IMO the LCC are protecting their interests and creating a test case for a similar development on their side.
The only key difference being that the land on the LCC's side is actually green belt and of a much higher overall quality.
FWIW I would sign a petition for similar developments on their side too. Citizens from Wakefield commute to Leeds, just as I'm sure citizens of the LCC will end up employed at NM.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"If anyone's feeling nervous about the prospect of the Newmarket application being called in '" No so keep calm, and let it just happen
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| I can't for the life of me see how LCC can have any sway on this, they may think they rule the world but the bigger powers that be won't give a rats about them.
Creating jobs in the present climate is a winner, added to that, increased finance for local council is not something thats happening in Wakefield on any other sites.
But still i have nagging doubts (suppose thats being a wakey fan)
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| It won't.
And unless we hear of a legal challenge in the next 7 days I feel pretty confident about saying we can scratch off that threat too.
As I said before; everyday that passes in the 28 day "cooling off period" is a step closer.
IMO expect to see an increase in trolling, with increasingly feeble arguments against NM- to an extent this has already begun. Because I believe that to a lot of other fans and officials in RL Wakefield with their cards in order is a scary thought, one they didn't expect to have to contemplate- but something that increasingly looks to be coming to fruition.
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| I agree with SWC in thinking LCC are looking after themselves and their future. I live in Rothwell and used to go to Royds School that is just north of J30 and for many years there has been talk of building on the land in the area. Wakefield have the advantage of the site being an old pit site while the Leeds side of the junction has, to my knowledge, always been farmland and would be trickier to get planning permission for. However, if they can make the Wakefield site look like it is built on green land it will ease the passing of planning permission on their side of the M62.
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| It's all underhanded politics and dirty tactics from LCC IMO.
But as I said I'm as much for jobs in this area (including areas on the boarders of Leeds) as I am about sporting provisions. And would support any development of their side too.
What has really griped me in this whole process is when opposition have claimed "supporters only care about the stadium and the employment is a smokescreen"- Well no it's not, I for one love my city and want it to prosper once again. So yes I am in favour of jobs because that puts a roof over the heads of citizens and food on their tables!
And in the grand scheme of things anyone who claims some fields are more important than the benefits NM will bring should try living below the breadline for a while and see how much they're glad they have those fields!
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| LCC clearly have there own agenda here and them having a say in this worried the heck out of me,
I just hope our council can get us though this, for me being able to see our stadium as you drive passed the 62 will put wakefield on the map, not only as a club but as a city, just like the reebok stadium in bolton
This development is not just wakefield trinitys time to shine it is our councils and the citys.
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| Dont you just love Leeds
Big City jacks who dont give two hoots about Wakefield,
Is this development in Leeds or Wakefield
If its Wakefield the loiners need to back off and sort their own problems out
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| Quote It said: "Officers are particularly concerned about the scale of the development and potential impact of the proposal on nearby settlements in Leeds district."'"
That is definitely Council code for if they are able to build there, we have have missed out on the money these companies would have brought our many ready built empty warehouse and office units within Leeds.
Quote Coun Don Wilson (Lib Dem, Rothwell) said that when it came to protecting the green belt, Leeds and Wakefield councils seemed to be working to different standards.'"
Another example of the Leeds City Council unwritten policy of 'Do as I say, not as I do'. I wonder if Coun Wilson is aware of park and ride in North Leeds (that hardly anyone uses) which was built on woodland and a school field (removing some of the school's sports facilities), Or the several areas of green belt areas of North Leeds where roads were re-routed so housing developments could be built by the North Leeds Jewish Housing Association. There was also the building of the new Grammar School (also on what was green belt) If he wants to look closer to his constituency, the Thorpe Park development at Colton and the ARLA Dairy development in Rothwell (both I believe were built on green belt).
[uThe fact is the only reason Leeds City Council even care is purely for financial reasons.[/u
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"It's all underhanded politics and dirty tactics from LCC IMO.
But as I said I'm as much for jobs in this area (including areas on the boarders of Leeds) as I am about sporting provisions. And would support any development of their side too.
What has really griped me in this whole process is when opposition have claimed "supporters only care about the stadium and the employment is a smokescreen"- Well no it's not, I for one love my city and want it to prosper once again. So yes I am in favour of jobs because that puts a roof over the heads of citizens and food on their tables!
And in the grand scheme of things anyone who claims some fields are more important than the benefits NM will bring should try living below the breadline for a while and see how much they're glad they have those fields!'"
Great post m8, this echos my thoughts exactly, I was born an raised in that area and on the leeds side youre right its farmed fields, our side is a old pit, it makes obvious sense which side to build on
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| Quote ="trinfan71"
That is definitely Council code for if they are able to build there, we have have missed out on the money these companies would have brought our many ready built empty warehouse and office units within Leeds.
Another example of the Leeds City Council unwritten policy of 'Do as I say, not as I do'. I wonder if Coun Wilson is aware of park and ride in North Leeds (that hardly anyone uses) which was built on woodland and a school field (removing some of the school's sports facilities), Or the several areas of green belt areas of North Leeds where roads were re-routed so housing developments could be built by the North Leeds Jewish Housing Association. There was also the building of the new Grammar School (also on what was green belt) If he wants to look closer to his constituency, the Thorpe Park development at Colton and the ARLA Dairy development in Rothwell (both I believe were built on green belt).
[uThe fact is the only reason Leeds City Council even care is purely for financial reasons.[/u'"
100% accurate. With the level of development that has been built on green belt land within the LCC constituency they are in truth very poorly situated to appeal for a public inquiry. It would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas.
I think the picture will be clearer by the end of the week.
Has anyone heard anything regarding HA? At the meeting Yorkcourt said they were "90% there", if this is resolved it is yet another positive we should be screaming from the rooftops. With the HA onside I would find it very hard to believe that this would be the first and only application to be put to a public inquiry since the Con-Dems took office.
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| Quote ="trinfan71"
That is definitely Council code for if they are able to build there, we have have missed out on the money these companies would have brought our many ready built empty warehouse and office units within Leeds.
Another example of the Leeds City Council unwritten policy of 'Do as I say, not as I do'. I wonder if Coun Wilson is aware of park and ride in North Leeds (that hardly anyone uses) which was built on woodland and a school field (removing some of the school's sports facilities), Or the several areas of green belt areas of North Leeds where roads were re-routed so housing developments could be built by the North Leeds Jewish Housing Association. There was also the building of the new Grammar School (also on what was green belt) If he wants to look closer to his constituency, the Thorpe Park development at Colton and the ARLA Dairy development in Rothwell (both I believe were built on green belt).
[uThe fact is the only reason Leeds City Council even care is purely for financial reasons.[/u'"
Absolutely spot on; if we can see through the smoke and mirrors that LCC are using to couch their objections, it seems reasonable that Mr Pickles and his colleagues will be able to do the same.
Nontheless, everything remains crossed until the 28 days passes.
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| Government spending policy, current opinions of senior policy-makers regarding economic regeneration and recovery, as well as current thinking of where responsibility for local planning decsions should fall...... or..... The LCC's paper thin argument of encroachment veiled over a sentiment of regret that they "didn't get in first".
In which direction do you think the governments favour will fall? I think I know.
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| Quote ="Jambon"www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/Leeds-City-Council-fights-Wakefield.6607267.jp'"
Is it possible to comment on that article on the page?
One thing that has just struck me is that the LCC are no opposed to the stadium (which is to be built on green belt) but strongly opposes the industrial units, which are on sites designated for employment by our council.
Can you imagine the reaction if any council told the LCC how to structure their economic plans??
I for one think that the LCC have long dreamt of the day when they bring Wakefield and our 5 towns under their wing. Taking away our only sporting team IMO is a big step to removing what's left of our civic pride and loyalty to the Merrie city. Making it all so much easier for us to stomach when they come to take over!
As Chartlon Heston once said "Over my cold, dead body!".
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"As Chartlon Heston once said "Over my cold, dead body!".'"
He actually said, "From my cold, dead hands" (in reference to proposed gun controls in the USA) but the sentiment remains the same!
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| What can I say; I was nearly there.
Not bad to say he's at the opposite side of the spectrum to me.
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| The probability is that Mr "ive made leeds what it is today" Caddick has missed out on the opportunity to put another wharehousing developmment on green belt land so close to Leeds and got on LCCs back to put the spoke in!!!!!
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| The more I read this the more I think this is a blatant attempt to undermine our independence as a city.
If they have the power to veto any decision that WMDC essentially makes a giant attempt in futility.
Boxy your city needs you; get your armour on and fight our cause- If we become part of the LCC your out of a job!
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| Leeds have had it all ! Bugger off let us get on with it ! If anything the road system will be better !!!
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| What's the crucial date in terms of knowing if it is being called in or not?
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"What's the crucial date in terms of knowing if it is being called in or not?'"
Have just asked that question myself.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"What's the crucial date in terms of knowing if it is being called in or not?'"
I thought it was within the 28 days period then it would be passed back
wouldn't that be the 18th Nov ?
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