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Further to the press release issued by Wakefield Trinity and the Wakefield and District Community Trust earlier today, we wish to confirm the position relating to SWAG at this time.
SWAG have taken part in wider discussions regarding the proposals for new Stadia in the Wakefield District. Our stance, following clarification of various matters and confirmation from the three parties involved – namely the Wakefield Trinity Club, the Wakefield and District Community Trust and the Developer of the Newmarket site, Yorkcourt, is that we remain both confident and focussed on the ability to deliver a Community Stadium and Sports Facility at Newmarket.
Consideration has been given to the possibility of ground sharing. We can confirm that SWAG are not against the principal of sharing a facility with other parties, indeed the very essence of what is proposed at Newmarket is that the site should be available to a variety of different clubs and sports – a true Community Facility, owned and operated by an independant body through the Wakefield and District Community Trust.
Consideration has also been given to the possibility of re-directing both the club and the facilities to the Glasshoughton site. We can confirm that, given the assurances from the parties involved at Newmarket – that the Newmarket site is fundable, viable and deliverable – that we believe it would be wrong for us to back the proposal to re-direct the support already given by the 15,000+ people for the Newmarket site to an alternative location. This decision is based on the issues of geography, history, funding and the range of available facilities proposed and the benefits achievable for the population of Wakefield.
We note with some concern the decision to delay the review of the Newmarket proposal until September. We are however satisfied by the parties involved that all the relevant work will be in place by that time and we remain confident of a successful outcome to that meeting. Time is clearly a major factor in this situation, but we are confident that what is proposed at Newmarket is something worth fighting for.
It is our belief that everything that has been done to facilitate the delivery of the Newmarket site has been done in such a manner as to avoid the potential pitfalls that occurred at Thornes Park. WMDC have indicated their inability to fund a facility directly and their advice was followed in identifying a site, a developer and in the formation of a Community Trust – for which we are extremely grateful to Sir Rodney Walker and his committee for their efforts in this matter. Fundamental in this process was the allocation of land by WMDC to the professional clubs in Wakefield, against which the clubs could borrow monies towards achieving their goals. Given that this involves no direct funding from the council, and in accepting that this offer was made in lieu of the failure of WMDC to deliver the Thornes Park facility (over which at least 2 years work was lost), we would consider it inconceivable that there should be any moves made to remove this offer, which would seriously jeopardise the time, money and effort so far spent in pursuing the Newmarket site.
In conclusion, the work that SWAG have been undertaking for the last 6 years – to deliver a Community Sporting Facility which can be home to professional Rugby League and a variety of other Professional and Amateur Sports, for Wakefield – will continue, and that our goal remains the current proposed site at Newmarket.
Many thanks,
Phil Townsend
Spokesman for SWAG – Stadium Wakefield Action Group.
www.swag-online.co.uk/
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Further to the press release issued by Wakefield Trinity and the Wakefield and District Community Trust earlier today, we wish to confirm the position relating to SWAG at this time.
SWAG have taken part in wider discussions regarding the proposals for new Stadia in the Wakefield District. Our stance, following clarification of various matters and confirmation from the three parties involved – namely the Wakefield Trinity Club, the Wakefield and District Community Trust and the Developer of the Newmarket site, Yorkcourt, is that we remain both confident and focussed on the ability to deliver a Community Stadium and Sports Facility at Newmarket.
Consideration has been given to the possibility of ground sharing. We can confirm that SWAG are not against the principal of sharing a facility with other parties, indeed the very essence of what is proposed at Newmarket is that the site should be available to a variety of different clubs and sports – a true Community Facility, owned and operated by an independant body through the Wakefield and District Community Trust.
Consideration has also been given to the possibility of re-directing both the club and the facilities to the Glasshoughton site. We can confirm that, given the assurances from the parties involved at Newmarket – that the Newmarket site is fundable, viable and deliverable – that we believe it would be wrong for us to back the proposal to re-direct the support already given by the 15,000+ people for the Newmarket site to an alternative location. This decision is based on the issues of geography, history, funding and the range of available facilities proposed and the benefits achievable for the population of Wakefield.
We note with some concern the decision to delay the review of the Newmarket proposal until September. We are however satisfied by the parties involved that all the relevant work will be in place by that time and we remain confident of a successful outcome to that meeting. Time is clearly a major factor in this situation, but we are confident that what is proposed at Newmarket is something worth fighting for.
It is our belief that everything that has been done to facilitate the delivery of the Newmarket site has been done in such a manner as to avoid the potential pitfalls that occurred at Thornes Park. WMDC have indicated their inability to fund a facility directly and their advice was followed in identifying a site, a developer and in the formation of a Community Trust – for which we are extremely grateful to Sir Rodney Walker and his committee for their efforts in this matter. Fundamental in this process was the allocation of land by WMDC to the professional clubs in Wakefield, against which the clubs could borrow monies towards achieving their goals. Given that this involves no direct funding from the council, and in accepting that this offer was made in lieu of the failure of WMDC to deliver the Thornes Park facility (over which at least 2 years work was lost), we would consider it inconceivable that there should be any moves made to remove this offer, which would seriously jeopardise the time, money and effort so far spent in pursuing the Newmarket site.
In conclusion, the work that SWAG have been undertaking for the last 6 years – to deliver a Community Sporting Facility which can be home to professional Rugby League and a variety of other Professional and Amateur Sports, for Wakefield – will continue, and that our goal remains the current proposed site at Newmarket.
Many thanks,
Phil Townsend
Spokesman for SWAG – Stadium Wakefield Action Group.
www.swag-online.co.uk/
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| HERE HERE. NEWMARKET ON WE GO. THE COUNCIL NEED TO FULFIL THERE PROMISE !
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"HERE HERE. NEWMARKET ON WE GO. THE COUNCIL NEED TO FULFIL THERE PROMISE !'"
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| Quote ="trinity for life"councils dont do promises'" your right, sh*t or bust for me
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| Why dont you just accept a stadium wherever it is an survive as a club!
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| Quote ="darwoo11"Why dont you just accept a stadium wherever it is an survive as a club!
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Yes indeed. Why dont we just put up with a stadium thats anywhere and be grateful.
Very easy for you to say isn't it?
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| Quote ="darwoo11"Why dont you just accept a stadium wherever it is an survive as a club!
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If Yorkshire Carnegie had any sense they would kick the Rhinos out and level the rugby pitch off and build a proper car park for the cricket matches', you could then go and share the bulls new ground at the Odsal sporting village, it should not be a problem for you as you are obviously into ground sharing
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| Quote ="chissitt"If Yorkshire Carnegie had any sense they would kick the Rhinos out and level the rugby pitch off and build a proper car park for the cricket matches', you could then go and share the bulls new ground at the Odsal sporting village, it should not be a problem for you as you are obviously into ground sharing
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The thing is we are not facing that scenario and you guys sadly are! I certainly don't want Wakefield to "go under" as a club simply because some people cannot accept that the only way forward is to share a ground.
Agree I wouldnt like to be in the predicament but you have to take whats on offer and survive dont you??
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| Quote ="darwoo11"The thing is we are not facing that scenario and you guys sadly are! I certainly don't want Wakefield to "go under" as a club simply because some people cannot accept that the only way forward is to share a ground.
Agree I wouldnt like to be in the predicament but you have to take whats on offer and survive dont you??'"
The problem in ground sharing is that in a couple of years time the RFL will be asking for both clubs to merge and not just share a ground.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"The problem in ground sharing is that in a couple of years time the RFL will be asking for both clubs to merge and not just share a ground.
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And what happens if they don't? Everybody's making assumption on what may or may not happen. The point is worrying what happens now, not two, three, five or ten years down the road.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"The problem in ground sharing is that in a couple of years time the RFL will be asking for both clubs to merge and not just share a ground.
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I agree but better to have a club and fight that possibility rather than fade into obscurity and have a large % of your fans not support the new "fledgling" club in the lower leagues as they only want SL?
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| Quote ="darwoo11"I agree but better to have a club and fight that possibility rather than fade into obscurity and have a large % of your fans not support the new "fledgling" club in the lower leagues as they only want SL?
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Can I spell it out to you ! The club have done a business plan for relocating to cas and basically it says it will not work financially. Our crowds are low enough now and many more will not bother going over there to watch us. So how do we grow the business in Cas ?
Basically a move to Cas would be financial suicide so how are we being unreasonable by not going ?
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Can I spell it out to you ! The club have done a business plan for relocating to cas and basically it says it will not work financially. Our crowds are low enough now and many more will not bother going over there to watch us. So how do we grow the business in Cas ?
Basically a move to Cas would be financial suicide so how are we being unreasonable by not going ?'"
Fair play.....end of SL for you lot then
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Can I spell it out to you ! The club have done a business plan for relocating to cas and basically it says it will not work financially. Our crowds are low enough now and many more will not bother going over there to watch us. So how do we grow the business in Cas ?
Basically a move to Cas would be financial suicide so how are we being unreasonable by not going ?'"
Exactly! and why anyone thinks Oakwell would work either is beyond me!
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| Quote ="chapster"Exactly! and why anyone thinks Oakwell would work either is beyond me!'"
it would as a stepping stone to Newmarket, if was to stay there then it would be a new club, and if Trinity was used as the team then I would look towards supporting them, WMDC should be ashamed at what they are trying to do, it has a taste of Thatchersim in way they are forcing us into a corner
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| Quote ="snowie"it would as a stepping stone to Newmarket, if was to stay there then it would be a new club, and if Trinity was used as the team then I would look towards supporting them, WMDC should be ashamed at what they are trying to do, it has a taste of Thatchersim in way they are forcing us into a corner
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we would not last a year in oakwell financially, ffs we can hardly survive at BV!
sponsors would be harder to come by, wed have to pay rent, fixtures could get moved all over the place to suit the footy, FANS WOULD NOT GO! south yorkshire does not want another sporting team, let alone an RL team, its been tried, it failed!
think you need to look nearer to home as well as to who has led who where!
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| Quote ="chapster"we would not last a year in oakwell financially, ffs we can hardly survive at BV!
sponsors would be harder to come by, wed have to pay rent, fixtures could get moved all over the place to suit the footy, FANS WOULD NOT GO! south yorkshire does not want another sporting team, let alone an RL team, its been tried, it failed!
think you need to look nearer to home as well as to who has led who where!'"
lets just hang on to with our dreams of newmarket then
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| Quote ="PHe"How do Sheffield Eagles afford to play at Bramall Lane?'"
they dont pay SL price for players contracts would be my guess!!
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| The country is on it's no matter what the politicians say. And the RFL are when all said & done threatening all clubs that don't make =#FF0000their criteria on grounds to build a new stadia Why couldn't this have been put on hold for at least couple of years to see what happens with the economy? Whats the point in having new stadiums if the fans don't have a job and can't afford to go and watch.
Sorry but I don't blame Wakey,Cas or even Box. This is down to the RFL forcing the clubs that can't afford it out of super league.Fans go on about Wakeys ground no shelter if it rains,poor toilets and parking facilities but most grounds are the same.
Bradford--- No shelter for fans
Leeds ---- No shelter for away fans and no parking facilities
Salford--- No shelter & poor toilets no Parking
Castleford-- No shelter (dare not risk bogs)
HKR---No shelter, no parking and stewards.
Most of us go to games and spend less than 2 hours in the ground. If we can't make do for just 2 hours then I think we should give up.
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| Quote ="Disney cat"The country is on it's booty no matter what the politicians say. And the RFL are when all said & done threatening all clubs that don't make =#FF0000their criteria on grounds to build a new stadia
Why couldn't this have been put on hold for at least couple of years to see what happens with the economy? Whats the point in having new stadiums if the fans don't have a job and can't afford to go and watch.
Sorry but I don't blame Wakey,Cas or even Box. This is down to the RFL forcing the clubs that can't afford it out of super league.Fans go on about Wakeys ground no shelter if it rains,poor toilets and parking facilities but most grounds are the same.
Bradford--- No shelter for fans
Leeds ---- No shelter for away fans and no parking facilities
Salford--- No shelter & poor toilets no Parking
Castleford-- No shelter (dare not risk bogs)
HKR---No shelter, no parking and poop stewards.
Most of us go to games and spend less than 2 hours in the ground. If we can't make do for just 2 hours then I think we should give up.
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good points, but yes it is the clubs fault as they should have been lobbying for the extra years you mentioned 2 years ago, en mass!
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We have 3 yes 3 covered area's.
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