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| He's still here and we're still at the bottom of the table. Any other club would have got rid of a coach who is so unsuccessful by now - why are we hanging on to a failure who has overseen the least amount of points scored and the worst defence in the league while having a less than 20% win rate?
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| Phew. Thought we'd lost you for a while then Egg.
We should go for a coach that can turn a team of no hopers who can't score a try and lose 15 on the bounce into a winning team.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Phew. Thought we'd lost you for a while then Egg.
We should go for a coach that can turn a team of no hopers who can't score a try and lose 15 on the bounce into a winning team.'"
By winning team you mean someone who can take a team from the bottom of the table to the heady heights of the bottom of the table?
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"By winning team you mean someone who can take a team from the bottom of the table to the heady heights of the bottom of the table?'"
I mean a team who can win some games. I thought that was clear sorry.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I mean a team who can win some games. I thought that was clear sorry.'"
I'm really impressed with your level of delusion that Appelgarth is a good coach despite all of the statistics proving that he isn't
His win rate is over 50% less than Chester's, who wasn't exactly a shining light of successful coaching
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| Someone remind me who the coach was for those 15 losses in the spin and SL record of consecutive nillings.
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"I'm really impressed with your level of delusion that Appelgarth is a good coach despite all of the statistics proving that he isn't
His win rate is over 50% less than Chester's, who wasn't exactly a shining light of successful coaching'"
I didn't say he was. I'm just pointing out that you wait until a loss to jump on him.
If we beat Cas it might be 3 weeks before we see you again.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I didn't say he was. I'm just pointing out that you wait until a loss to jump on him.
If we beat Cas it might be 3 weeks before we see you again.'"
By that reckoning, if we win 2 games we won’t see him on here again this season, let’s all pray
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| Youi're flogging a dead horse Egg Banjo owd lad. The likes of DS and PT will NEVER accept what 99% of other posters on this can clearly see, You're right, the statistics prove the point Applegarth is NOT a good coach. I'm long convinced that PT still believes in fairies.
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| He/she believes in you and Banjo String or you'd be blocked.
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| Got to admit, Think a 15 losing streak speaks for it's self Deciding to make Gaskel the main play maker was shocking ,you could see he was way past is best when he did play the season before .Just getting rid of younger players Giving Hood a 2 year contract I could go on.What is going to happen when Gale and Dave go at end of season , .As a coach for S L forget it, if we go down do not think he is good enough to build us a winning Championship team We have got to break this signing old players and geting rid of the young players habit that could \ will cost us S L . The only reason Cas are as bad as us is because they are full of old players Every other S L club as got the balance of Old and Young players right bar us and Cas
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| Quote ="Redscat"Youi're flogging a dead horse Egg Banjo owd lad. The likes of DS and PT will NEVER accept what 99% of other posters on this can clearly see, You're right, the statistics prove the point Applegarth is NOT a good coach. I'm long convinced that PT still believes in fairies.'"
Lol.
Just to be clear. Of course there are better coaches out there than Applegarth.
What I think is, this isn't the time to mess with it.
If there is better in the off season then great. But that isn't someone's assistant or a failed coach wanting a second chance.
I'd happily bring Kear in to help, but changing the dynamic when the players are actually now responding is counter intuitive. Just build on the good momentum we have and move past the odd loss on the way.
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| Also.....it kinda makes me chuckle when all these people say life will be better under Ellis and its all Carter's fault.
But even though Ellis has put money in and supposedly now in charge (even though he isn't really) he hasn't tried to replace Applegarth.
I think some people are heading for a disappointment
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| Out of interest, how long is he contracted for ??
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| 4 year if he playes golf
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| Quote ="PopTart"Lol.
Just to be clear. Of course there are better coaches out there than Applegarth.
What I think is, this isn't the time to mess with it.
If there is better in the off season then great. But that isn't someone's assistant or a failed coach wanting a second chance.
I'd happily bring Kear in to help, but changing the dynamic when the players are actually now responding is counter intuitive. Just build on the good momentum we have and move past the odd loss on the way.'"
Why do you say it's counter intuitive? How do you know it is? Was it Counter intuitive when we brought JK in the first time around when we were in a similar position? The "dynamic" that you mention only appears to be evident for home matches apparently. It would make my day if just once I could log in and read that PT had just added a post stating that, "So and so had a crap game" or "Wasn't the ref rubbish". I would then know that Pop Tart is not a robot
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| Applegarth was not the right man when he was appointed and he still isn't now. Even if he does keep us up he is not the right man for the job.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Why do you say it's counter intuitive? How do you know it is? Was it Counter intuitive when we brought JK in the first time around when we were in a similar position? The "dynamic" that you mention only appears to be evident for home matches apparently. It would make my day if just once I could log in and read that PT had just added a post stating that, "So and so had a crap game" or "Wasn't the ref rubbish". I would then know that Pop Tart is not a robot
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You need to log in more. I've called plenty of people out. I just don't throw all the toys out of the pram when I do.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You need to log in more. I've called plenty of people out. I just don't throw all the toys out of the pram when I do.'"
I log on every evening, PT. Pity you couldn't answer my questions.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Why do you say it's counter intuitive? How do you know it is?
=#FF0000Intuition is a personal thing. Seems counter to me. Doesn't have to be for you.
Was it Counter intuitive when we brought JK in the first time around when we were in a similar position?
=#FF0000No as we were losing games and on the decline. This time we are winning games and on the rise.
The "dynamic" that you mention only appears to be evident for home matches apparently.
=#FF0000So what? We have 4 home games left. No team is undefeated this year. Its just the way it is.
It would make my day if just once I could log in and read that PT had just added a post stating that, "So and so had a crap game" or "Wasn't the ref rubbish". I would then know that Pop Tart is not a robot
=#FF0000No question here but I have said I wouldn't play Lineham. Explained at length why Hood has a bad game against Leigh and said I'd quite happily ditch Jorge and Atoni.
Clearly 3 of those have turned their form around proving that a bad game or even 15 bad games doesn't mean it will always be the case.
But i dont care if you think I'm a robot. Crack on
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| Quote ="FIL"Out of interest, how long is he contracted for ??'"
I may have missed it because I don’t remember it being mentioned but I would guess just one year.
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| Partially!!!
I agree entirely that intuition is a personal thing. Please bear that in mind.
"Winning games and on the rise". What? When we win 42-6 one week then lose 42-4 just a week later?
Can't quite see why the fact that "No team is undefeated this " is regarded as "a dynamic".
Never mind. Keep up the good work.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Partially!!!
I agree entirely that intuition is a personal thing. Please bear that in mind.
"Winning games and on the rise". What? When we win 42-6 one week then lose 42-4 just a week later?
Can't quite see why the fact that "No team is undefeated this " is regarded as "a dynamic".
Never mind. Keep up the good work.'"
Unfortunately I can't understand it for you. Only tell you.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Applegarth was not the right man when he was appointed and he still isn't now. Even if he does keep us up he is not the right man for the job.'"
I agree altofts, also we get a few results & lino back in, hull were always gonna snuff out gale which left lino to create, which he's struggled to do in all his games so far when having no direction.But thats a coach who when has plenty of options trys to accomodate all and changes things around.
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| Quote ="TALLYWACKER62"I agree altofts, also we get a few results & lino back in, hull were always gonna snuff out gale which left lino to create, which he's struggled to do in all his games so far when having no direction.But thats a coach who when has plenty of options trys to accomodate all and changes things around.'"
So who plays instead of Lino? Dagger or Kay? Neither of them are creators either.
And he's never going to win if he can't play the same winning team but has to change winning team
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