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| After consultation with RFL we are now back to supporting IMG stuff.
Either we've had some positive news or we are expecting big things from Milnes.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"After consultation with RFL we are now back to supporting IMG stuff.
Either we've had some positive news or we are expecting big things from Milnes.'"
Can you post the link please, this is becoming a bit of a Merry Go Round.
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| If this is true I’d be worried. I thought we were concerned about the lack of clarity on some details so how does this give clarity?
“The answer we received on the issue of promotion and relegation was a comprehensive one and it is clear that the chances of that happening (the Championship Grand Final winners being denied promotion) are very remote.” Gary Hetherington
“Under the IMG proposals even though you might win the Million Pound Game it doesn’t mean you will be promoted. If the bottom club in Super League have only half a percent more in the grading system than the Championship Champions for having an LED Screen or a larger catchment area means that Super League loser stays up and meaning the Championship winner stays exactly where they were having achieved nothing and won nothing more than a medal this will drive away ambition from clubs and mean there is no investment to get better.” Keighley Cougars
And this is the problem with the IMG proposals. Hetherington may have been assured but how does that square with the Keighley boss’s assertion (which is also how I interpret the IMG system will work)? What does the chances are “ very remote” mean? I suspect the chance for London or Toulouse might be very different to the chance for, say Batley or Swinton or even Trinity. It’s precisely the lack of clarity about the process that’s worrying.
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| But that's the whole point. This is franchise, not P&R.
No matter how much detail is added, that is the fundamental theme.
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| Strange U-turn.
Can only think there are some further amendments, which are more beneficial to us, or we have some news imminent.
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| Quote ="PopTart"But that's the whole point. This is franchise, not P&R.
No matter how much detail is added, that is the fundamental theme.'"
Is Franchising the same as Licensing? If so, then the last attempt worked out well, or not.
As fans, there’s nothing much we can do, only vote with our feet, and I think that we happen across the RL board, just my opinion of the way things are going lately.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Is Franchising the same as Licensing? If so, then the last attempt worked out well, or not.
As fans, there’s nothing much we can do, only vote with our feet, and I think that we happen across the RL board, just my opinion of the way things are going lately.'"
If we fans vote with our feet then the best thing to do is just attend home games. Let’s strengthen Wakefield trinity and not be putting money into other clubs coffers.
It’s tough at the moment but the absolute very least is that I will attend every single home game.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"After consultation with RFL we are now back to supporting IMG stuff.
Either we've had some positive news or we are expecting big things from Milnes.'"
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| We've probably been told, "Look lads you're obviously going down this time, toe the party line or you'll never be let back in".
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| Quote ="PopTart"But that's the whole point. This is franchise, not P&R.
No matter how much detail is added, that is the fundamental theme.'"
Is it though? Hetherington seems to think it’s both franchising and P&R.
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"Is it though? Hetherington seems to think it’s both franchising and P&R.'"
P&R still in place this season.
IMG changes start from next season.
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Clubs voted in favour.'" abstained, i wonder why?
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| Quote ="KevW60349"One Super League club [Salford abstained, i wonder why?'"
They have said it was a misunderstanding/mistake and they are in full support of the changes.
That's quite a big mistake though. What a mess it would have been if that was a deciding vote.
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Quote ="wrencat1873"This is going to end in tears.
More smoke and mirrors and some of the "points" awarded for social media etc are just bizarre.
Apparently clubs will be judged by the "quality" of their social media output ??
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... y-of-clubs'"
Online marketing in the modern era is very important and been missed massively by clubs.
We've had plenty of threads on here complaining about Trinity lack of it.
So yes, I think it's an important criteria.
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Quote ="wrencat1873"This is going to end in tears.
More smoke and mirrors and some of the "points" awarded for social media etc are just bizarre.
Apparently clubs will be judged by the "quality" of their social media output ??
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... y-of-clubs'"
Online marketing in the modern era is very important and been missed massively by clubs.
We've had plenty of threads on here complaining about Trinity lack of it.
So yes, I think it's an important criteria.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"If we fans vote with our feet then the best thing to do is just attend home games. Let’s strengthen Wakefield trinity and not be putting money into other clubs coffers.
It’s tough at the moment but the absolute very least is that I will attend every single home game.'"
And then all the other clubs supporters don't attend their away games at Wakefield. How much potential income would be lost?
Not the brightest thought
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| Quote ="PopTart"Online marketing in the modern era is very important and been missed massively by clubs.
We've had plenty of threads on here complaining about Trinity lack of it.
So yes, I think it's an important criteria.'"
Of course it's important.
However, when you see comments that it's not the "on line traffic" but "the quality of the output", that will be measured, this becomes open to abuse.
Sorry PT but, for any criteria to work, it has to be open, transparent and easily checked and not decided by men in grey suits, in the proverbial smoke filed room.
Of course, there is plenty for us to work on without the grey areas but, again, questions have to be asked on why junior development, which is THE most important area, is not right at the top of the list.
Ultimately, we come back to anything that is decided away from the field of play, not only moves RL away from being a sport but, it also leaves any system open to conjecture and abuse.
We've been here before (under the licensing model) and that didn't end well.
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| I haven't seen the quality part you mention. That is definitely not good.
The only time I'd be ok with them judging our output is if they are offering to help, not docking points.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Of course it's important.
However, when you see comments that it's not the "on line traffic" but "the quality of the output", that will be measured, this becomes open to abuse.
Sorry PT but, for any criteria to work, it has to be open, transparent and easily checked and not decided by men in grey suits, in the proverbial smoke filed room.
Of course, there is plenty for us to work on without the grey areas but, again, questions have to be asked on why junior development, which is THE most important area, is not right at the top of the list.
Ultimately, we come back to anything that is decided away from the field of play, not only moves RL away from being a sport but, it also leaves any system open to conjecture and abuse.
We've been here before (under the licensing model) and that didn't end well.'"
Agreed. The problem is many of the criteria are very woolly with the detail and open to differing interpretation and even manipulation. I remain sure that this is deliberate and a way to get the teams they want in the top league, which i am also convinced includes the likes of Toulouse, York, a London team, etc. Time will tell i guess but given our likely relegation this year there is feeling of the Turkey just having voted for Christmas here as being outside of Super League at its inception and not having the luxury of being a desired expansion club gives us a real problem.
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| Is there a cunning plan in play?
Maybe we are happy to be relegated this year, the final season of P&R. (2023)
That would allow us to clear the decks, release players etc & spend 1 year in the championship (2024)
Have we then been promised a place in SL the year after due to the improved facilities at Belle Vue (2025)
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Is there a cunning plan in play?
Maybe we are happy to be relegated this year, the final season of P&R. (2023)
That would allow us to clear the decks, release players etc & spend 1 year in the championship (2024)
Have we then been promised a place in SL the year after due to the improved facilities at Belle Vue (2025)'"
Given the relatively low amount of points attributed to stadium criteria and the fact that the ground will be as done as its getting for now by the end of this year anyway i’d say no.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"And then all the other clubs supporters don't attend their away games at Wakefield. How much potential income would be lost?
Not the brightest thought'"
I won’t be. My comment is a response to people saying they would vote with their feet. Such is their right but if they do I’d rather them do it for away games only and not home.
I’m not sure why a number of trinity supporters possibly not attending games would turn into the whole leagues fan base not attending away games. It’s a bit of a leap. That would be very unlikely and not very bright to suggest.
I certainly won’t be protesting or making a point of not attending games. I will always attend every home game as a bare minimum. I did go to almost every away game but presently I’m not going to many of them. The cost of everything is spiralling out of control.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Is there a cunning plan in play?
Maybe we are happy to be relegated this year, the final season of P&R. (2023)
That would allow us to clear the decks, release players etc & spend 1 year in the championship (2024)
Have we then been promised a place in SL the year after due to the improved facilities at Belle Vue (2025)'"
I do think that’s the plan and has been since the IMG was announced. Obviously we needed clarity on some items before voting favour.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"I do think that’s the plan and has been since the IMG was announced. Obviously we needed clarity on some items before voting favour.
Up the Trin'"
Honestly. Why would we plan to be relegated?
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