Some were starting to discuss Warrington so we might as well have a dedicated thread instead of disrupting others.

So if you want to discuss the games on Sky in which we are not involved ...... this is the place

Ok

Judging on last nights performance have we dodged a bullet with Lisone, looked awful and really unfit. Atoni looks like a different gravy.

Hard to say as Leeds as a whole were so out matched. Especially in the forwards.

I can still see Leeds getting their act together but the forwards looked a bit toothless so maybe you are right about Lisone.

Excellent opening day performance by Warrington last night so it could be their year. Didn't they win their 1st four games last year though?

1st 3 games, then lost the next 4 in a row including a 38-22 defeat at home by us.

Said for a while that Leeds are lacking in quality. They've signed some young, potentially good players but haven't improved their starting 17. Warrington were always going to be better this year, not convinced they'll win it but reckon they'll be top four.

Yes ,Wire 'saved our bacon' last season by giving us a valuable 4pts. From last night's showing I can't see that happening this season

Though game was too one sided to judge.Leeds had a few out ,Think it got said by Pundits 10 times .To me not enough quality to change my mind about the state of the game in this country .Both will be given grade A .Worrying for the English players coming though

Warrington look a different team this year, so might challenge, and Leeds looked dreadful.

On the other hand, it was the same last year at this time. One finished 11th and one went to the Grand Final.

Leeds quite often start badly. They've won it at least twice from fifth, after having a bumpy start.

But a promising start for Warrington.

On top of Last nights defeat we now have to deal with Saints being WCC champions. At least Leigh lost.

Why is that a problem?
They won fair and square and represented England and Super League extremely well.

Fantastic performance by St Helens, I was into the game and I’m proud that they won it for Sts SL and Northern Hemisphere Rugby League fans

(OH and to stick it up Gus Goulds Jaxie)

As if their fans weren’t arrogant and stuck up enough already.

Agree and im sick of seeing how its jack welsby show he had 2 assists for penrith today

I was impressed with Rervers today, especially their makeshift left centre

Wigan's failure to turn the first three tries into 6 pointers really let Rovers off the hook. Toby King continues to look absolute pants.

We would still have won by three points…

My point is that the momentum of the game could have been a whole lot different at 6-18.

Both Wigan and HKR were forgettable in that clash ,Wigan desperately need someone who can kick goals as it proved costly .Makes me feel a little easier after watching this game that it isn’t just us who haven’t hit their straps yet .

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What a daft post that is Willy.

Speaking of other teams, JD seems to have South's working well together

I didn't think either Leigh or Salford played well

They didn't, but it was always going to be tough for Salford, because of the emotion around Leigh. That will be a big loss for Leigh. First game back up. Winnable game.

Have to say though that Leigh looked every part a Grade A club. Good ground. Good support. Money backer. We look poor against them.

And we have slipped comfortably into our regular 11th spot in the league from round one