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| Having a go at Bojo and his party.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Having a go at Bojo and his party.'"
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Having a go at Bojo and his party.'"
Yeh saw that and supporting tweet from Mellor at Leeds ! Not the only ones pi$$ed off.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Having a go at Bojo and his party.'"
Did he injure himself in the process?
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| Was that it?
He’s hardly going out on a limb is he. I’d suggest 99.9% of the population including a large number of his own MP’s would say the same.
If Tom could come up with an idea as to how we can rid ourselves of this clown without letting in something even worse, the Labour Party, then I’d be more impressed.
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| Quote ="vastman"Was that it?
He’s hardly going out on a limb is he. I’d suggest 99.9% of the population including a large number of his own MP’s would say the same.
If Tom could come up with an idea as to how we can rid ourselves of this clown without letting in something even worse, the Labour Party, then I’d be more impressed.'"
Are you really suggesting that Bojo is the best possible PM ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Are you really suggesting that Bojo is the best possible PM ?'"
Do you have trouble reading or being deliberately thick?
Where on earth did I say that!
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| Quote ="vastman"Was that it?
He’s hardly going out on a limb is he. I’d suggest 99.9% of the population including a large number of his own MP’s would say the same.
If Tom could come up with an idea as to how we can rid ourselves of this clown without letting in something even worse, the Labour Party, then I’d be more impressed.'"
Who do you suggest because Labour are by far the second biggest group in Parliament. It does indicate that by default despite the clown there is no real alternative in your opinion.
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| Quote ="vastman"Was that it?
He’s hardly going out on a limb is he. I’d suggest 99.9% of the population including a large number of his own MP’s would say the same.
If Tom could come up with an idea as to how we can rid ourselves of this clown without letting in something even worse, the Labour Party, then I’d be more impressed.'"
The easiest way to get rid of Boris would be for the Conservative Party/MP's to have a no confidence vote in him and deselect him as leader of the party and have a leadership election.
The only way something worse could happen is if a General Election is called but with the Conservatives still sitting on a majority of around eighty it's unlikely they would. So we should be safe from Captain Hindsight for another couple of years, unless the Labour party indulge in a bit of bloodletting and get rid of him, the question is though who would replace him and would that person further harm their cause.
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| You are happy to continue with Major Sleaze and his band of enablers then.
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| Give me Starmer over this clown every day of the week.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Give me Starmer over this clown every day of the week.'"
Done, when do you want him
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Who do you suggest because Labour are by far the second biggest group in Parliament. It does indicate that by default despite the clown there is no real alternative in your opinion.'"
Correct.
You don’t replace a clown with a clown.
If it were Stammer alone I’d buy that but you only have to look at his vile deputy to see he’s far from in control.
I’m afraid the coup will have to come from within the Tory party. It’s far more possible than in the Labour Party due to its constitution.
If they could get rid of Thatcher who imo was the second greatest post war PM after Atlee then BJ’s days are numbered. The Tories are ruthless when they fear they are losing support through stupidity.
We will see.
Finally Boris has had a tough time since taking over let’s be fair but there comes a point and I think we are nearly there.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Give me Starmer over this clown every day of the week.'"
Come on you’re smarter than that.
It won’t be Stammer you get it will be the hag who sits next to him and her red guard. You’d be begging for Boris back after a year.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You are happy to continue with Major Sleaze and his band of enablers then.'"
And that doesn’t apply to the Labour Party as well. How many Covid breakers have they produced? And then there was the ‘is it because I is black’ MP who was recently spared a jail sentence JUST.
Does anyone really believe either party has an ounce of morality at the highest levels? I don’t.
Like her or hate her Thatcher was the last conviction politician, you’ll not see the like again.
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| Quote ="vastman"Correct.
You don’t replace a clown with a clown.
If it were Stammer alone I’d buy that but you only have to look at his vile deputy to see he’s far from in control.
I’m afraid the coup will have to come from within the Tory party. It’s far more possible than in the Labour Party due to its constitution.
If they could get rid of Thatcher who imo was the second greatest post war PM after Atlee then BJ’s days are numbered. The Tories are ruthless when they fear they are losing support through stupidity.
We will see.
[uFinally Boris has had a tough time since taking over let’s be fair [/ubut there comes a point and I think we are nearly there.'"
Oh aye he’s definitely had a tough time.
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| Quote ="vastman"Come on you’re smarter than that.
It won’t be Stammer you get it will be the hag who sits next to him and her red guard. You’d be begging for Boris back after a year.'"
I'd take her as well.
He's the worst PM we could have at the worst possible time. An absolutely horrible man.
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| It's amazing Vasty how you want to paint all polotitions with the same tory brush, only an idiot would try to defend the actions of the government over the last couple of years let alone the last couple of months..
Bojo, s the best in the business at deflecting criticism while playing the joker card and it's amazing people can be taken in by him and his set of croney ministers.
You have to be an out and out tory to even consider defending them.
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| Quote ="vastman"And that doesn’t apply to the Labour Party as well. How many Covid breakers have they produced? And then there was the ‘is it because I is black’ MP who was recently spared a jail sentence JUST.
Does anyone really believe either party has an ounce of morality at the highest levels? I don’t.
Like her or hate her Thatcher was the last conviction politician, you’ll not see the like again.'"
The MP in question was removed from the Labour Party and asked to resign. How does that compare to how Boris handled the recent scandal involving Patterson for example. I note that you use the standard they are all the same when something cannot be defended they aren’t.
With regards Thatcher that is your opinion, in mine she was a disaster and we are now reaping the outcome with all the utilities now owned by companies mainly from outside the U.K..
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| Quote ="vastman"Was that it?
He’s hardly going out on a limb is he. I’d suggest 99.9% of the population including a large number of his own MP’s would say the same.
I=#FF0000f Tom could come up with an idea as to how we can rid ourselves of this clown without letting in something even worse, the Labour Party, then I’d be more impressed.'"
Tut, Tut!!!
Just when I was beginning to like and respect you, vasty, you go and say a thing like that. Ah well! One day you'll see.
Keep it up Tom!!!
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Give me Starmer over this clown every day of the week.'"
Absolute joke of a leader is Starmer.
Boris the Bull$#itter was voted in to sort Brexit if anyone thinks he would be anything else must be deluded. He has no grip and no shame he will be out no confidence pretty soon I would think.
As for the opposition see above the Starmer and his front bench dearie me what a circus.
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| Think it's time Labour were giving a chance what we got to lose .Up in this part of the England ( thought it was the North but according to Boris that is Birmingham) we have been left to defend for our self Boris was pointing out that death in Europe was increasing but they are still 67 thousand more deaths in this country than any country in Europe .I would like to see the women in charge of Labour who said the government was scum .Saw her in action at M P Questions time, when Starmer had covid and she said it as it was and came out way on top .If London did not have 35% of the new covid there would have not been interested in plan B . There just interested in money, money , and do not give o monkey about the people ,people that die ,over run hospitals, And people up in this part of the Country do not exist
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| Quote ="alegend"Think it's time Labour were giving a chance what we got to lose .Up in this part of the England ( thought it was the North but according to Boris that is Birmingham) we have been left to defend for our self Boris was pointing out that death in Europe was increasing but they are still 67 thousand more deaths in this country than any country in Europe .I would like to see the women in charge of Labour who said the government was scum .Saw her in action at M P Questions time, when Starmer had covid and she said it as it was and came out way on top .If London did not have 35% of the new covid there would have not been interested in plan B . There just interested in money, money , and do not give o monkey about the people ,people that die ,over run hospitals, And people up in this part of the Country do not exist
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That is the woman feared by Vastman so it could never happen. If I was him I would be more worried by Liz Truss who appears to believe we are still feared around the world.
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Quote ="alegend"Think it's time Labour were giving a chance what we got to lose .Up in this part of the England ( thought it was the North but according to Boris that is Birmingham) we have been left to defend for our self Boris was pointing out that death in Europe was increasing but they are still 67 thousand more deaths in this country than any country in Europe .I would like to see the women in charge of Labour who said the government was scum .Saw her in action at M P Questions time, when Starmer had covid and she said it as it was and came out way on top .If London did not have 35% of the new covid there would have not been interested in plan B . There just interested in money, money , and do not give o monkey about the people ,people that die ,over run hospitals, And people up in this part of the Country do not exist
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Its actually about 11k more than the next European country (Italy).
And (although nothing to be proud of) a dozen or so European countries with a higher death rate (per million of population) than UK.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/
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Its actually about 11k more than the next European country (Italy).
And (although nothing to be proud of) a dozen or so European countries with a higher death rate (per million of population) than UK.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/
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| It's not an easy thing to compare across countries.
They don't necessarily measure the same way which could go for or against our numbers but I'd say its more important now to look at new cases and new deaths.
Our number has been higher for a long time but European countries are suddenly getting a surge where we are trying to control it.
Time will tell I guess.
But ultimately, it isn't down to Boris. If people wash their hands, socially distance and wear a mask where its busy There'll be less cases.
Doesn't matter to me if they had a party. Depending on what happened I'd make a couple lose their jobs but it won't change whether I socially distance or not.
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