Anyone have an updated list of our clubs - out of contract players - this who would WP look to retain ?

I think currently this is the list….
A.Walker
K.Wood
Westerman
Batchelor
Green
Arundel
J.Woods
Kershaw
Hampshire
Bailey
Greensmith
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I reckon we'll only keep Batch, Bailey and Kershaw.
Maybe Hampshire.

I’d add Green on a one year but only because there is so little out there. I also like Josh Wood but I think the emergence of Kay and the signing of Hood has probably seen him off.

I’d keep Arundal but I’m wondering if he wants to go part time so he can concentrate on his business interests.

Green too given his position. 1 year contract mind.

Shame if Greensmith leaves without really threatening the first team. With Arundel allegedly leaving and the injuries to Tupou, Croft and even Kershaw he may have got a shot.

I would have kept Arundal. I like him a lot.
But from his point of view it will probably extend his career and he'll dominate that position in the lower league.

Green I think I might have done but we haven't seen enough of the good, sometimes for injury reason but I think Willie can probably get a better younger prospect with his connections.

Green, Batchelor and Bailey for me, if we were limited to the absolute minimum.

Totally right - Green has been a let down since we signed him. Just doesn't play to his size and is either injured or not consistent. Rather we promote one of our own youngsters.....

Has he played well over the last few months or so because Chezzy has gone and it's all down to Willie........or simply playing for a new contract?

We haven't really got a young prop ready, the only one we have is already playing in the first team. I suppose Eseh might be ready.

Rumoured that Kyle Wood and Arundel are both in their way to Halifax.

Hampshire must be an obvious retention because of his versatility and the fact he never lets the team down.

I thought that was actually announced. Can't remember now. But I understand its done.

Green - definitely not. Shown no consistency across 90% of his time with us. I would be very surprised if we offered Hampshire a deal as whether we wanted him or not Gaskell will give that flexibility across FB/SO and the three quarter line if we need it.

Also IMO I assume that Tupou is going as why would we have been trying to sign Langi if we were keeping Bill. Can see Josh Wood staying as I don't think Liam Kay (as well as he has done) is a viable long term week in/week out option at hooker alongside Hood. Hope Young Batch and Arundel stay

Give over, Kay has totally proved himself at hooker, I like Josh but Kay offers so much more, not least the ability to play wing and even FB at a pinch. The same applies to Hampshire. Their versatility is priceless.

As I said I'd keep Green only because there is so little out there but I have to be honest I do worry that he's the kind of player who only plays for a contract.

Think we have 25 so far signed up for next season including the 3 new signings and with it been common knowledge we are going with a smaller squad next year maybe a max of 5 signings left. Would hope batch,Hampshire,Kershaw and maybe green offered from that list and 1 new prop coming in from NRL potentially.

Andrew Fifita to play in the team with their Dave......

I don't think you prove yourself in a position over a handful of games. As I say I think Kay has done well but a hooker needs to do much more than run from acting half, they need to be able to do a lot of tackling and act as a play maker as well as providing quality quick ball. I personally wouldnt want us to go in to a new season with only one recognised hooker, unless Willie feels that Harry Bowes is ready to do the job.

Don't agree. You prove you can do the job by doing it and Kay can. You are entitled to your opinion but pigeonholing players is a bugbear of mine. Kay does everything you say and there is a reason for that. He started his career as an SH which these days are almost the same as a 9. As far as I'm concerned he's a recognized hooker so long as he carries on as he has been, in the same way, Hampshire is a FB, Tupou a centre, Lyne a centre and so on, all positions they didn't start in.

Also, Kay has stated he wants to play 9 so do you want to tell him?

Just so we’re clear I like Kay and I’m not bagging him at all. Not my job to tell him it’s Willie’s should he wish to.

Be mad if we keep green rather see essah play

Agree. Think we need two props one hopefully being Andrew Fifita and hopefully a young up and coming

I believe the Fifta deal is not dead in the water yet, but I have no solid evidence on that.

Can you imagine how the competition from his twin who's always overshadowed him will spur Dave on? If It did that would be a dynamite front row

Dave Fifita
Andrew Fifita
Eddie Battye (who can play a bit)
Aydin (a real find IMO)
Arona (great cover)
Eseh (Who could be ready come next year)
Tanginoa (in case of emergency)

Not bad and some real aggression.

I'd be happy with that.

Agree with u AMI, Kaye has only proved he can fill in as a temporary hooker
He’s good at running fast from acting half back no doubt
But isnt particular good at any of the other finer points required to be a starting hooker, the main one being distribution
Also playing a handful of matches in the middle and doing a full season there are two different asks entirely, he’s not built to do that

Hes spent the last ten years as a winger So it’s not a surprise really that’s where he is best suited
Kaye at hooker……. Not for me

I think he’ll continue to be a winger once hood comes in

He is going for the hooker spot next year and i think he as been the best out of the 5 we have tried they all season

Personally, I'd be more than happy to see him playing at hooker next season as I think he's been a revelation there.
If he's said that's where he wants to play then he has the off season to concentrate on refining his skillset to allow him to be even more effective there. Liam Hood coming in puts pressure on him but that could be good for him too. Having to compete with a decent quality hooker for the spot can only push him to improve.