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Thought I'd start this so folk can add any updates they come across so as to keep folk as well informed as possible, pin it maybe mods?
I'll kick off with this I found on the net, it's the architect's own site and gives a few more pics and bits of info, not much but a bit. Enjoy
https://www.afl-architects.com/news/pla ... evelopment
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Thought I'd start this so folk can add any updates they come across so as to keep folk as well informed as possible, pin it maybe mods?
I'll kick off with this I found on the net, it's the architect's own site and gives a few more pics and bits of info, not much but a bit. Enjoy
https://www.afl-architects.com/news/pla ... evelopment
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Quote ="Fishermanscap"Thought I'd start this so folk can add any updates they come across so as to keep folk as well informed as possible, pin it maybe mods?
I'll kick off with this I found on the net, it's the architect's own site and gives a few more pics and bits of info, not much but a bit. Enjoy
https://www.afl-architects.com/news/pla ... evelopment'"
Interesting that the North stand capacity goes to 3500 from the current 1500 (restricted), seems as though it will be enlarged at the NW corner.
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Quote ="Fishermanscap"Thought I'd start this so folk can add any updates they come across so as to keep folk as well informed as possible, pin it maybe mods?
I'll kick off with this I found on the net, it's the architect's own site and gives a few more pics and bits of info, not much but a bit. Enjoy
https://www.afl-architects.com/news/pla ... evelopment'"
Interesting that the North stand capacity goes to 3500 from the current 1500 (restricted), seems as though it will be enlarged at the NW corner.
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| Quote ="phe13"Interesting that the North stand capacity goes to 3500 from the current 1500 (restricted), seems as though it will be enlarged at the NW corner.'"
Maybe but I suspect the main raise will come from relayed safe terracing. I'll tell you what though, it feels like more than 1500 are in it at times.
I'll be honest, it's hard to place things on those drawings, some of it doesn't look much like BV.
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| Thanks for the link Vasty.
The artists impressions look superb and everything remains crossed for the planning to get through quickly.
It's been a (very) long time coming.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Thanks for the link Vasty.
The artists impressions look superb and everything remains crossed for the planning to get through quickly.
It's been a (very) long time coming.'"
Not Vasty, anyway.
Unlike other efforts, these look feasible.
Personally, I love it, basically, it's BV as it's been for the last 30 years but in modern form. All the familiarity and atmosphere retained but new or refurbished and fit for purpose. Above all it's affordable and the important corporate/community bit has been done first and the rest can be done in stages later on as cash permits.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Thanks for the link Vasty.
The artists impressions look superb and everything remains crossed for the planning to get through quickly.
It's been a (very) long time coming.'"
One very obvious question having looked at the new stand. *where are the Hospitality boxes? I ask because I want to book a couple of tables for my 75th birthday, May 2022.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"One very obvious question having looked at the new stand. *where are the Hospitality boxes? I ask because I want to book a couple of tables for my 75th birthday, May 2022.
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The existing flats are staying for now so I assume that's where the hospitality boxes will remain as there are none in the new stand as far as I can see. I'm assuming they are getting a re-vamp along with the Rollin Shack, even better they may even finally create a bridge from one to the other.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"The existing flats are staying for now so I assume that's where the hospitality boxes will remain as there are none in the new stand as far as I can see. I'm assuming they are getting a re-vamp along with the Rollin Shack, even better they may even finally create a bridge from one to the other.'"
Thanks FC, but I don’t think that could be possible. The Current Hospitality flats are sadly, really not fit for purpose. I’m sure John Minards, indicated the new Hospitality area would be included in the rebuilt East Stand. I hope so anyway.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Thanks FC, but I don’t think that could be possible. The Current Hospitality flats are sadly, really not fit for purpose. I’m sure John Minards, indicated the new Hospitality area would be included in the rebuilt East Stand. I hope so anyway.'"
There is Q&A session with Mr Minards and Mr Carter on Thursday I think. Hopefully more detail will be discussed there and relayed to us fans.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Thanks FC, but I don’t think that could be possible. The Current Hospitality flats are sadly, really not fit for purpose. I’m sure John Minards, indicated the new Hospitality area would be included in the rebuilt East Stand. I hope so anyway.'"
We will see, but they are still on the plans with no suggestion that they will be removed. There are also no boxes in the plans for the east stand. I think they will remain for now. I do think however, weddings, parties etc will be done in the new stand.
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| There is hospitality in the new stand, but not boxes.
Maybe they can be retro-fitted when the finances are better??
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| Quote ="dboy"There is hospitality in the new stand, but not boxes.
Maybe they can be retro-fitted when the finances are better??'"
Possibly but I imagine they will replace those boxes in the next phase with a new stand that will have boxes, possibly attached to the Rollin shack.
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| Is it just me ? The biggest ‘eyesore’ at Belle Vue is surely the western terrace. I wonder why there are no plans for development there.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Thanks FC, but I don’t think that could be possible. The Current Hospitality flats are sadly, really not fit for purpose. I’m sure John Minards, indicated the new Hospitality area would be included in the rebuilt East Stand. I hope so anyway.'"
If memory serves, JM said that there would a hospitality suite in the East stand, not boxes.
When this opens, maybe knock the flats down and replace it with boxes in that new build??
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| Quote ="pamsboy"Is it just me ? The biggest ‘eyesore’ at Belle Vue is surely the western terrace. I wonder why there are no plans for development there.'"
Cos that's where we stick the six-fingered brigade and Dirty Leeds......
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| Quote ="pamsboy"Is it just me ? The biggest ‘eyesore’ at Belle Vue is surely the western terrace. I wonder why there are no plans for development there.'"
One, it's the least possible bit to develop. Two, it's the least important. area of the stadium Three, it will be when money permits.
It's nothing to do with looks, we need a modern main stand with full facilities, The only place for that is the East stand, where there is room for the stand and some parking.
Also, you don't think the East stand is an eyesore, especially the bit facing the passing public on Doncaster Road?
So yes, it's just you
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Quote ="Fishermanscap"Thought I'd start this so folk can add any updates they come across so as to keep folk as well informed as possible, pin it maybe mods?
I'll kick off with this I found on the net, it's the architect's own site and gives a few more pics and bits of info, not much but a bit. Enjoy
https://www.afl-architects.com/news/pla ... evelopment'"
Have to say as well FC, they did a great job with the new Brentford FC stadium - if BV looks anything like that, then it will be a great place to visit!
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Quote ="Fishermanscap"Thought I'd start this so folk can add any updates they come across so as to keep folk as well informed as possible, pin it maybe mods?
I'll kick off with this I found on the net, it's the architect's own site and gives a few more pics and bits of info, not much but a bit. Enjoy
https://www.afl-architects.com/news/pla ... evelopment'"
Have to say as well FC, they did a great job with the new Brentford FC stadium - if BV looks anything like that, then it will be a great place to visit!
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| Quote ="pamsboy"Is it just me ? The biggest ‘eyesore’ at Belle Vue is surely the western terrace. I wonder why there are no plans for development there.'" the concrete was in fair better condition on most of the west stand which allowed us to drill and anchor the brackets that was attached to the barriers without doing any remedial work to the base but infront of the covered area it had to have the barriers broke out and concete pour in to give it a better foundation as did all the ones along the east stand, the barriers was then linked to increase numbers on that side, the north stand would of been a nightmare to do and only a few got a make over, as the capacity was at 11k before the work it was deemed it would never be that on most games so a reduced capacity was given
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| Quote ="snowie"the concrete was in fair better condition on most of the west stand which allowed us to drill and anchor the brackets that was attached to the barriers without doing any remedial work to the base but infront of the covered area it had to have the barriers broke out and concete pour in to give it a better foundation as did all the ones along the east stand, the barriers was then linked to increase numbers on that side, the north stand would of been a nightmare to do and only a few got a make over, as the capacity was at 11k before the work it was deemed it would never be that on most games so a reduced capacity was given'"
I’m pretty sure some of the terracing on the west side is not all that old. Certainly the southerly bit.
The North stand terracing hasn’t been touched in at least 30 year apart from some hole filling. Though I believe the foundations have had work done to them.
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| Quote ="pamsboy"Is it just me ? The biggest ‘eyesore’ at Belle Vue is surely the western terrace. I wonder why there are no plans for development there.'"
Maybe the East stand development will be constructed further back from the pitch allowing more room in the future to develop the Western Terrace.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Maybe the East stand development will be constructed further back from the pitch allowing more room in the future to develop the Western Terrace.'"
Sorry to sound like the self-appointed expert but to do that you'd have to move a floodlight pylon and you'd hit the Rollin shack after about 8 feet, just not worth it when the money could be spent elsewhere.
All the west terrace requires IMHO is better re-profiled terracing and a new outer wall and later a basic roof. I suspect the west terrace will always be for away fans from now on, so basic and functional will do.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Maybe the East stand development will be constructed further back from the pitch allowing more room in the future to develop the Western Terrace.'"
That would be massively expensive.
Not a bad idea but I don't think we'll be able to do that.
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| That would ‘do’ for the west terrace FC . I wasn’t suggesting the new stand should be there . Just wondered why nothing had been suggested for an improvement there.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Sorry to sound like the self-appointed expert but to do that you'd have to move a floodlight pylon and you'd hit the Rollin shack after about 8 feet, just not worth it when the money could be spent elsewhere.
All the west terrace requires IMHO is better re-profiled terracing and a new outer wall and later a basic roof. I suspect the west terrace will always be for away fans from now on, so basic and functional will do.'"
New lights are quoted in the plans
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Sorry to sound like the self-appointed expert but to do that you'd have to move a floodlight pylon and you'd hit the Rollin shack after about 8 feet, just not worth it when the money could be spent elsewhere.
All the west terrace requires IMHO is better re-profiled terracing and a new outer wall and later a basic roof. I suspect the west terrace will always be for away fans from now on, so basic and functional will do.'"
Floodlights are coming out anyway - unless the suggestion is to "re-lamp" the existing towers???
A Q for tomorrow...
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