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| Hull try first..no clear view on TV or for the ref. Try given with the try in the field decision. We get the on field decision on a very borderline Knock back he looks 6 x at and gives. Disgraceful. Don't tell me that man doesn't have an issue with us
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| No mention of the knee into Bill's back which took him out.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"No mention of the knee into Bill's back which took him out.'"
Wasn't it Robert Hicks?
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| That kick from Connor had try written all over it from the second it left his foot, regardless of any straw clutching we do. Tupou isn't the best at defending any high kicks. Same when our other centre was "unlucky" with that next Connor kick.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Wasn't it Robert Hicks?'"
No. They said child on sky
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"That kick from Connor had try written all over it from the second it left his foot, regardless of any straw clutching we do. Tupou isn't the best at defending any high kicks. Same when our other centre was "unlucky" with that next Connor kick.'"
What's that got to do with the rules of the game?
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"No. They said child on sky'"
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"No mention of the knee into Bill's back which took him out.'"
Yes he did, but it was a genuine attempt to challenge for the ball, but lets blame the ref ad infinitum.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Yes he did, but it was a genuine attempt to challenge for the ball, but lets blame the ref ad infinitum.'"
If you look at when Fonua’s knee connects with Bill his hands are nowhere near the ball yet. Even if accidental he took at player out and should have been rubbed out.
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| Quote ="supercat"If you look at when Fonua’s knee connects with Bill his hands are nowhere near the ball yet. Even if accidental he took at player out and should have been rubbed out.'"
Wasn’t even mentioned until Phil Clarke brought it up at the end. Embarrassing
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Yes he did, but it was a genuine attempt to challenge for the ball, but lets blame the ref ad infinitum.'"
I'm blaming the video ref for an appalling decision that ultimately has cost us the match. Yep...if you don't make the errors we made you don't have to worry about crap decisions. But when your luck is out a decision like that is a kick in the teeth. It was not incontrovertibly wrong on the pitch decision. It took several looks and was different depending on the angle. The rules were ignored
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Wasn’t even mentioned until Phil Clarke brought it up at the end. Embarrassing'"
Indeed. The sky team are infuriating. And it's not just our games. I've lost count of the times I've been shouting at the garbage they're talking about an incident
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| Stop blaming refs and video refs because we lost.
Can we really expect to win a game with a completion rate of 55%
The effort was there, but like I said earlier, you can’t win games on effort alone
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| Indeed. Lots of great effort and some skill today but we lost through errors. Nothing to do with ref.
Some 50-50s went against us but they were 50-50s.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Stop blaming refs and video refs because we lost.
Can we really expect to win a game with a completion rate of 55%
The effort was there, but like I said earlier, you can’t win games on effort alone'"
Bit of a moot point when the opposition also had a completion rate the same.
So to answer your question yes you can expect to win a game with 55% completion rate.
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| We really need to stop blaming officials for defeats losing 23 games out of 28 isnt down to refs
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| And I'll add
Video ref has also robbed Castleford. It's really not good enough that these video ref decisions are so often incorrect
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"And I'll add
Video ref has also robbed Castleford. It's really not good enough that these video ref decisions are so often incorrect'"
Video ref made one iffy decision against Richardson but the referee spent the rest of the game hammering Wire as some sort of apology!
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| It pains me to say it but the decision for Swift’s try was taken out of his hands by the on field referee giving a try. I could not see if he grounded the ball but in all probability he did. What I would ask is how could he he even get into that position because we had enough cover. With regards the second try if the roles were reversed then I would have expected a try to be awarded.
We can go on blaming the referees, the pitch, bad luck and injuries but we lost to a weakened Hull team who have a cup match on Sunday.
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| And we can go on attacking our own team. Yes, we made errors. So did Hull. I'm not having it that you can keep excusing poor decisions that decide matches. That is my view and that's that. So many of you love blaming our coach and players but when officials f up it's hey ho
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Stop blaming refs and video refs because we lost.
Can we really expect to win a game with a completion rate of 55%
The effort was there, but like I said earlier, you can’t win games on effort alone'"
They were as bad. The decision cost us that game
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| The knee in the back could be argued about but no one spotted it on the field at the time and until Sky Sports mentioned it I hadn't seen it either. Did anyone on here see it at the time? Even without that we had enough chances to win the game against a very average Hull team but we didn't take them. It was a much more positive performance than the last couple of league games and the players seemed to be wanting to play for each other so I hope that continues throughout the season
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Yes he did, but it was a genuine attempt to challenge for the ball, but lets blame the ref ad infinitum.'"
How many times have you seen way, way, less contact and a penalty given to the defending side.
In most games you cant even breath on the FB (or Centre) and a penalty is given to the defending side.
Genuine attempt ? probably
Fair attempt ? never
For me it was a poor call.
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| Olpherts effort was a no try in every situation other than the ridiculous rule we have where the VR has to find concrete proof that the refs decision is wrong!
That said I think the replays showed Olpherts had clearly lost the ball yet he still got the try
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| There was a similar video ref call in one of the Aussie games the other week where the attacking player clearly made contact with the defender as they both jumped for the ball and I said that it was definitely "no try" as he contacted the defender, which was clear to see, but the video ref clearly stated that as both players were clearly challenging for the ball that contact was allowed and that it was a fair try. I guess the same rule applies here ??
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