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| Kendal is our ref again on Monday
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| Can't believe I'm saying this but it would be nice to have either Child or Thaler for a change.
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| I’ve mentioned this before regarding a friend of mine who is a ref and a good one, who I spoke to after the game,apparently all refs are scored and got to achieve at worst a -8 , if I remember correctly, if below then they are demoted, Kendal scored we’ll below in his last game but still gets a SL gig and was as bad again. If your face fits and all that I suppose.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I’ve mentioned this before regarding a friend of mine who is a ref and a good one, who I spoke to after the game,apparently all refs are scored and got to achieve at worst a -8 , if I remember correctly, if below then they are demoted, Kendal scored we’ll below in his last game but still gets a SL gig and was as bad again. If your face fits and all that I suppose.'"
One or two odd decisions but I didn’t think he was that bad tbh but then I can’t rewatch games we lose so I’ll never know.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"One or two odd decisions but I didn’t think he was that bad tbh but then I can’t rewatch games we lose so I’ll never know.'"
I’m usually the same Fishermanscap, but I watched it back last night after a couple of gins it’s where he got the decisions wrong that I have a problem, as tries were scored after, the penalty against Lynne was a classic amongst all classics regarding blunders.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I’m usually the same Fishermanscap, but I watched it back last night after a couple of gins
it’s where he got the decisions wrong that I have a problem, as tries were scored after, the penalty against Lynne was a classic amongst all classics regarding blunders.'"
I thought last Friday was bad enough - but after watching that back it was even worse. I can accept some 50-50 calls, but some of those were dire. The Reece Lyne one was an absolute shocker.
If you're right BLM re assessments, Im sure you are - he shouldn't be reffing in SL for at least an month.
I can only summise that they are given two games over Easter regardless of the first performance.
God help us on Monday.
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| Watching the Wigan Saints game and Childs let players in the ruck go on at least two occasions and one that was nearly as bad as Reece Lynne's. I don't have a problem with that but when inconsistency leads to tries then I do
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| Surely the same ref shouldn’t ref the same side two games running. Not the first time this has happened to us either
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| Don’t recall the ref completing at 61% not sticking in the tackle, or running like wet fish in the first half. I could be wrong mind
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| I thought he ran like a wet fish for the whole game to be honest....never seen anyone penalised for standing up and playing the ball in my 40+ years of watching the game !!!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Don’t recall the ref completing at 61% not sticking in the tackle, or running like wet fish in the first half. I could be wrong mind'"
You're right, of course, the ref didn't cost us the game we did.
But whilst there will always be people who will criticise refs as a default, it shouldn't undermine the ability/right to say when refs are getting process wrong and seek improvement.
Too many aspects in refereeing are below par.
And to be really clear, the game, especially the PTB, could improve drastically and immediately, if players cut the rubbish and got on with the game - coaches & players can take the pressure off refs and make the game better for all of us.
I won't hold my breath...
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| Ref blaming/bashing is just tiresome. I bet he didn’t make 10% of the errors that we did. However it’s symptomatic of modern society. Always looking for it to be someone else’s fault!!
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| Good to see Thaler wave play on when someone deliberately played the ball into prone player during the Hull derby yesterday.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Good to see Thaler wave play on when someone deliberately played the ball into prone player during the Hull derby yesterday.'"
This is why most fans become frustrated with referees, the interpretations of rules between different referees is huge and I’m sure majority opinion of fair minded fans is that poor referees do cost some clubs league points however good or bad a team plays that game.
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| The key one for me was the flop on Reynolds after the charge down. Pen more or less in front of sticks and a yellow card.
Alas it wasn't to be, we got giddy threw a pass and ended up bundled in touch.
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| Double trouble seems to be a correct title, 5 penalties each half against us means 10 we have to over come, again !
No matter what we do he will find them !
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Don’t recall the ref completing at 61% not sticking in the tackle, or running like wet fish in the first half. I could be wrong mind'"
It's possible for the team to be poor AND the ref to be poor
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Double trouble seems to be a correct title, 5 penalties each half against us means 10 we have to over come, again !
No matter what we do he will find them !'"
The number of penalties is not an issue. It always gets me when people say it's unfair that the ref gave them more than us or penalised a lot.
If that's how many there are then we need to improve our discipline.
My only issue is inconsistency.
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| Quote ="PopTart"The number of penalties is not an issue. It always gets me when people say it's unfair that the ref gave them more than us or penalised a lot.
If that's how many there are then we need to improve our discipline.
=#FF0000My only issue is inconsistency.'"
That for me PT is the biggest issue.
It not only drives us mad, it must be the same for players - whichever team it is.
If the refs gave all the same - as has been pointed out with some of the same things Kendal gave & Thaler didnt earlier in the thread, you could accept it.
I get what MC is saying, but I'm sure that he would agree with the pen against Reece was incorrect.....
As much as hate comparing SL with the NRL, im watching the Canberra v Brisbane game and so far the refs have't gave a dodgy decision in either half.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Ref blaming/bashing is just tiresome. I bet he didn’t make 10% of the errors that we did. However it’s symptomatic of modern society. Always looking for it to be someone else’s fault!!'"
All I know is it's a job I wouldn't like to do!
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| Quote ="Willzay"All I know is it's a job I wouldn't like to do!'"
There's lots of jobs that I wouldn't do either, but that's not an excuse for those that do do the job to do it poorly
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| You can have all the discipline you want, if a ref wants to penalise, he will ! Let's stop kidding about this whole subject, I have watched most NRL games this season & the refs are way ahead of ours in all aspects, so if they can do it, why the he'll can't ours !!!!!!
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"You can have all the discipline you want, if a ref wants to penalise, he will ! Let's stop kidding about this whole subject, I have watched most NRL games this season & the refs are way ahead of ours in all aspects, so if they can do it, why the he'll can't ours !!!!!!'"
Maybe because they have 2 helping each other. We have 1 ref and 2 touch judges who don’t actually do anything just run up and down the line
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Ref blaming/bashing is just tiresome. I bet he didn’t make 10% of the errors that we did. However it’s symptomatic of modern society. Always looking for it to be someone else’s fault!!'"
Bet you've had long arguments over that subject with Chezzy then. Daddycool
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Ref blaming/bashing is just tiresome. I bet he didn’t make 10% of the errors that we did. However it’s symptomatic of modern society. Always looking for it to be someone else’s fault!!'"
Don't think it's particularly symptomatic of today; The referee has come in for severe criticism in all the sixty-odd years that I've been watching the game. Whereas at one time it was more bashing for bashing's sake, but now the standard has become so low that spectators expect someone who can at least do the job right for the amount we have to pay at the turnstiles.
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