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| According to Steve Ferres [sorry this should read Steve Gill, thank you Towns88 he is hinting of positive news of Cas. moving into the new stadium for the 2020 season. Lateral the development company for the Five Towns Park Stadium at Jnct. 32 of the M62 are making a major announcement on 28th April 2017 and Gill is saying all the indications are for good news but he will not release statement until the announcement and he is 100% certain of positive news. And meanwhile the quest for Trinity's new Stadium goes on and on and on.
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| Steve Ferres walked out on Cas about 4/5 years ago!
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| Quote ="Towns88"Steve Ferres walked out on Cas about 4/5 years ago!'"
Quite right, i meant Steve Gill,Castleford's Chief Executive
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| Quote ="KevW60349"According to Steve Ferres [sorry this should read Steve Gill, thank you Towns88 he is hinting of positive news of Cas. moving into the new stadium for the 2020 season. Lateral the development company for the Five Towns Park Stadium at Jnct. 32 of the M62 are making a major announcement on 28th April 2017 and Gill is saying all the indications are for good news but he will not release statement until the announcement and he is 100% certain of positive news. And meanwhile the quest for Trinity's new Stadium goes on and on and on.'"
This was publicised a couple of months back and posted on here. Why the need to raise it again?
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| Stop trying to rub it in. I'll believe the new Cas stadium when I see it as well.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Stop trying to rub it in. I'll believe the new Cas stadium when I see it as well.'"
Get a grip,read my last line, i was making the point that Wakefield's Community Stadium is a long running saga, but Cas have been able to move swiftly on regards their stadium.
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| Quote ="KevW60349"Get a grip,read my last line, i was making the point that Wakefield's Community Stadium is a long running saga, but Cas have been able to move swiftly on regards their stadium.'"
Is it my imagination or has a new stadium for Cas saga not being going on for as long as Trinity? As for Cas moving swiftly: They originally reported they would be playing there this year, yet specific planning has not yet been submitted and they are now talking about 2020.
AJ Bell and Salford will have a tram station by 2020!
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| Kev mate, this our 2nd attempt at a new stadium and I know you have had a lot false dawns than we have.
I think that when Steve Gill took over as CEO he realised that Tricky Dicky's plan was "pie in the sky" and decided to drop it and explore new avenues (Stainburn) and this seems to have worked out.
I know this won't be welcome by all on here but have other avenues been explored by your club and does there come a time when the Trust (despite all their hard work) say enough is enough at Newmarket.
If its just a matter of pride I don't think The Trust could have done any more but maybe its time to look for other viable alternatives. It seems to have worked for us at Cas.
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| Quote ="Kiyan"Is it my imagination or has a new stadium for Cas saga not being going on for as long as Trinity? As for Cas moving swiftly: They originally reported they would be playing there this year, yet specific planning has not yet been submitted and they are now talking about 2020.
AJ Bell and Salford will have a tram station by 2020!'"
The date of 2020 at the earliest, although light years in front of Newmarket, was slightly negative news for Cas I thought.
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| Light years Wollo?
With the comments in here last week, it sounded like we were getting close to the trigger point regarding sqaure metres.
As for the finances and the initial £2m to be funded by us the way I read it. If we were in line to buy the stadium back last year, then to me it would appear that we do have some finances in place.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Light years Wollo?
it sounded like.
the way I read it.
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Your key words.
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| Quote ="Kiyan"Is it my imagination or has a new stadium for Cas saga not being going on for as long as Trinity? As for Cas moving swiftly: They originally reported they would be playing there this year, yet specific planning has not yet been submitted and they are now talking about 2020.
AJ Bell and Salford will have a tram station by 2020!'"
The planning has already been submitted and passed.
To clarify other points, the deadline was moved back as Lateral had to revise the application to take out the supermarket element and include more retail floorspace. This has also subsequently been passed.
Groundworks and coal removal work to begin in June and be complete by end of next year. And funding is already committed to the project.
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| Quote ="Fully"The planning has already been submitted and passed.
To clarify other points, the deadline was moved back as Lateral had to revise the application to take out the supermarket element and include more retail floorspace. This has also subsequently been passed.
Groundworks and coal removal work to begin in June and be complete by end of next year. And funding is already committed to the project.'"
Like I said: "Light years".
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| Quote ="Kiyan"Is it my imagination or has a new stadium for Cas saga not being going on for as long as Trinity? As for Cas moving swiftly: They originally reported they would be playing there this year, yet specific planning has not yet been submitted and they are now talking about 2020.
AJ Bell and Salford will have a tram station by 2020!'"
That's the point I was making.
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| The Cas stadium saga is as long as our own. This is the third attempt to my knowledge and still not a brick laid. Good luck to them. We will continue to fight for ours.
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| Quote ="TRB"The Cas stadium saga is as long as our own. This is the third attempt to my knowledge and still not a brick laid. Good luck to them. =#FF0000:2krea2ioWe will continue to fight for ours.[/
Myself and many other neutrals would never doubt you on that and I have nothing but admiration for your dedication, commitment and what must have been a huge personal cost regarding your family life.
But when you say "ours" do you still mean Newmarket?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"
It's the only option on the table - so yes!
We are now working towards getting a new MPA 106 which will be 'as good, if nowt better than, Castlefords'.
I hope today's news will move you a little closer!
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| What news is that TRB.
Move who a little closer, Trinity or Tigers
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"What news is that TRB.
Move who a little closer, Trinity or Tigers'"
Cas. It's regarding the statement from their developers which was just a progress report and doesn't really say a great deal in confirming anything.
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| Have the trust seen the document yet that Peter Box referred to at the last Council meeting.
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You've probably taken the most negative slant possible on that statement.
The main difference in the 2 projects is that Lateral have always been honest with the Cas fans and kept us informed directly.
With apologies it seems that Yorkcourt haven't been quite so open with you.
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You've probably taken the most negative slant possible on that statement.
The main difference in the 2 projects is that Lateral have always been honest with the Cas fans and kept us informed directly.
With apologies it seems that Yorkcourt haven't been quite so open with you.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"You've probably taken the most negative slant possible on that statement.
The main difference in the 2 projects is that Lateral have always been honest with the Cas fans and kept us informed directly.
With apologies it seems that Yorkcourt haven't been quite so open with you.'"
He may have taken the most negative slants on the stadium, but among the spin it is the 2 most important.
Despite what many have repeated over and over, funding is not yet secure for the development and probably won't won't be until they sign up more retailers.
It has always been the part of this plan I found the hardest to understand financially. In that you need someone willing to give away £10m up front (for a stadium) in the hope that the rest of the development is a success. The country is littered with half empty retail developments, if the developer had at least kept some stake in the stadium (even for a fixed time), it would have remained as an asset and helped them secure funding for the rest of the project. As it is, they are going to need alot of watertight agreements (in a fast changing retail world), to ensure a profit before they lay a brick.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"You've probably taken the most negative slant possible on that statement.
The main difference in the 2 projects is that Lateral have always been honest with the Cas fans and kept us informed directly.
With apologies it seems that Yorkcourt haven't been quite so open with you.'"
It's not really a negative spin though is it even though you think it is. The conditions required for the five towns development are almost identical to those required by Newmarket. In so much as their needs to be some finances in place, and their needs to be some occupied commercial units. Neither development currently has the finances or has hit the required numbers/area to make make the stadium financially viable. I don't think the honesty of the companies involved even really needs to come into it, for all you know, Lateral my be feeding Cas complete tosh just like Yorkcourt did. The bottom line is that neither club are any closer to getting the stadiums they were promised
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