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| Listening to Shudders match an there injuries I'm fancying a win on Friday doubling up with Chesters first game in charge.
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| Who got injured today?
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| I fancy a win just not sure we can win.
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| Crabtree and Tansey can't play either apparently
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| Well the only way is up after today so I would like to think so otherwise gaps between us and teams above will make it harder
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| It has taken a while but due to HKR beating Salford we are now bottom of SUper League. Just above us is Huddersfield so
Tansey can't play against us on Friday but can he play for us???
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| Oh and a hudds player got sent off so probs another player down
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| Hope I'm wrong but can't see a win as we don't know how to score. Plenty of opportunity last Friday but not enough skill to open up the defence
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| It will be our usual kick start of Huddersfield's season. We are always generous to them.
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| Huddersfield could send a team of under 13s and they'd still give us a hiding. Friday will be Huddersfield's chance to kick start their season and we'll happily oblige. Can't see anything other than a disappointing defeat. Happy to be proved wrong mind.
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| Well if this Huddersfield team is as weak as some are saying then we could probably get a win.
However they still have plenty of good players so I think a win could be a big ask of our guys.
On the other hand if we can't beat them at home with all their current problems it makes you wonder
if we will manage to get another win at all in the regular rounds. I think this game will be a real
guideline as to the true potential of our current squad.
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| Given who Huddersfield have missing and their lack of form i actually think we have a chance, especially given we have had 2 days extra prep for it. I think you'll find there is a return for Kirmond, Moore and BJB as well which will help lift spirits, so i'm going for a narrow win for us.
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| If Brough doesn't play we've got a chance.
If a half fit Brough plays we've got no chance.
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| My mind goes back to Catalan at home last season. They had not won an away game all season but we were as per usual low on confidence having endured a string of defeats. This game appears to be following the same scenario and sadly I expect the outcome to be the same. I know we have another new coach but he is still working with the same squad of players.
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| Beating Shudds is always difficult for us.
I don't know the stats but, its something like2 wins in 10 years ??
Having said that, they are down on form, down on numbers and we simply MUST NOT allow this game to kick start their season.
They say there are no easy games in SL but, every team see's playing Wakefield as an easy game.
No if's, o but's, we have to start strong and win the game by whatever means we can.
They will e going all out to take their 2 easy points and it's up to us not to le it happen.
Le's get right behind the boys and Chris Chester and generate some positive atmosphere at Belle Vue and we might be able to scrape a win.
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| Just been confirmed that they have signed Ryan Brierley.
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| Who Have? Shudds or Trin?
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| Quote ="Redscat"Who Have? Shudds or Trin?'"
'They' being Huddersfield.
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| Ne'er mind> We've got Finn & Miller
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| Chris Chester is not a God, if Brian Smith could not get his squad to defend, tackle, catch, pass, attack what chance has poor old Chester got. Inspiration and perspiration can improve our defense, but our players are not of the required standard, simple skills such as passing and catching are beyond them, understanding defensive structures is beyond them. That said I think Chester will have the new coach effect and we will see the amount of points conceded from 40 down to 30, which with our players will be a huge achievement, attack wise Chester should know that if he plays Finn and Miller then at best we can manage 1 try per match. Chester has indicated that we are looking to bring in a player, in the meantime playing anyone other than Finn and Miller would be an improvement. I would go with Tansey and Hall, not great but better than Fimm and Miller.
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| Big game on friday now, our talent isn't in question, our attitude and mental strength is.
Yesterday we were on top against Catalans at half time and dominated the last 25 minutes, we simply didn't turn up in the 2nd half, and what we did do was lazy, lethargic and slow, we rightly got punished, do the same on friday and you'll beat us!
Not sure about numbers,Ellis and Smith both definitely out Eorl was concussed, so he could be missing, Broughy went off as a precaution with a leg injury, Wardle will be banned for his red card, Tansey can't play, but we could have Brierley and young Simpson back in the squad.
Can't say i'm looking forward to it!
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| Hudds are our bogey team on the best of days, can't see past another loss unfortunately!
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| Shudds will do their usual number on us, saving Anderson's bacon until after the Easter weekend.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Chris Chester is not a God, if Brian Smith could not get his squad to defend, tackle, catch, pass, attack what chance has poor old Chester got. Inspiration and perspiration can improve our defense, but our players are not of the required standard, simple skills such as passing and catching are beyond them, understanding defensive structures is beyond them. That said I think Chester will have the new coach effect and we will see the amount of points conceded from 40 down to 30, which with our players will be a huge achievement, attack wise Chester should know that if he plays Finn and Miller then at best we can manage 1 try per match. Chester has indicated that we are looking to bring in a player, in the meantime playing anyone other than Finn and Miller would be an improvement. I would go with Tansey and Hall, not great but better than Fimm and Miller.'"
Not sure why you lump Finn and Miller together as IMHO thry are not a partnership.
Finn is what he is we all know that and given the correct players around him he's effective as shown at your beloved Cas.
Watch the game and see the number of times Finn is left stranded in no mans land looking for Miller (and others) only to have him on the wrong side, behind him or a fifty yard pass away - as we know he aint Wally Lewis. He needs to up his game but he needs a proper partner.
I really hate to pick on individuals but despite being gifted with pace and agility for me Miller is the worst RL player I think I've ever seen at BV, certainly the worst halfback and I include Tommy Lee and Ronnie Troutman in that! He simply can't or won't play the game, it's as if he's never been coached. He reminds me of those RU converts in the 80's and 90's playing their first game but without the potential to improve. Put him with Thurston and he might just be OK, just as he was for a game or two with Smith towards the end of last year but for a valuable import that's nowhere near good enough.
Everything stops at Miller when we attack. He needs intensive one on one coaching to teach him the basics of halfback play and needs his roll in the team drilled into him. To say that of an NRL trained player is damning but trust us to get the dud. I also thinks he actually needs the help of a sports psychologist as I swear he has a passing yip. When he occasionally is in the right place and sees the gap or the over lap he shapes to pass then appears to lose his nerve even though it's clearly on. Invitably he either pulls the ball back into his chest and crashes into the tackle often losing the ball. Worse he does just about let go with a jerky pass that inevitably land between the two potential recipients or goes forward making everyone look a chump.
I simply cannot understand why we persist, almost anyone would be less destructive to our overall game. I'll say it again, poor though some of the rest of them are - everything stops at Miller.
That's the reason we are so easy to beat, it's not our defence that cost us it's the attack. The opposition know that they can play relatively badly and still win because they know we can't outscore them and thus they don't have to defend. We all got excited against Catalan because for nearly 20 minutes we applied pressure but that's such a rarity and had Miller been on his game we would have managed that in the first half.
Maybe I'm being overly harsh but everytime I watch him my heart sinks and I remember my own lad playing the game and I swear he and evey young half back he played against was better.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Shudds will do their usual number on us, saving Anderson's bacon until after the Easter weekend.'"
Correct, this game is simply a banker for Hudds - always has been always will be. I know we freaked the odd win but generally it's a training run for them.
They could send their office staff coached by the groundsman and they would still have to much pride and guile for us - worse still is that scenario also applied for better teams than we currently have!
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