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| Based on the performance against Bradford, the news on players being fit and the probable lists of Owen, I'd go with the following team to play Leigh away.
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I'd rotate the props one at a time, when we took both off v Bradford we lost too much momentum. I'd start Simon at 13 but once I'd spelled him I'd be looking to reintroduce him in the front row to keep the pack on the front foot.
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| Leigh currently struggling at Salford, 16 - 0 HT
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| Just play our game and be on the ball from the first second, we will be there in numbers supporting the lads. Come on Trin
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| Salford 46 v 18 Leigh
Leigh will be smarting from that and will have had a week of home truths rammed down their necks. We've got to be ready for a bit of an onslaught in the early stages of the game
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| Leigh were once again poor and are a mile off being at any of the superleague clubs level. They will try and come out of the the block fast next week but if we weather that and perform like yesterday we will get a relatively comfortable win.
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| We've showed we can attack but Leigh have some strong forwards so I feel it's defence and completion that will win this
Having said that I was very upbeat after yesterday and much more confident of a win
Come on the Trin
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Leigh were once again poor and are a mile off being at any of the superleague clubs level. They will try and come out of the the block fast next week but if we weather that and perform like yesterday we will get a relatively comfortable win.'"
My old games teacher used to say to us after a win or defeat, in any sport, you weren't as good or as bad as you probably thought you were, still not sure to this day whether there's anything in that...... I watched the game, I would disagree slightly, I wouldn't say they were poor. Salford's pack dominated for most of the game, and Rangi had one of his 'on' days and had a field day, apart from when he threw a crazy pass out under his own sticks and all they had to do was catch and ground the ball, which the Leigh guy couldn't. They were outplayed for most of the game, but, they did actually have 4 tries disallowed, a couple were a bit dodgy. The way Leigh play, whether they are being dominated or not, they will always create chances, they will try stuff other teams won't, and if it does come off for them, they are very capable of racking up a fair few points. They will test our defence far more than Bradford did yesterday, and that has been our achillies heel all season. But, you are pretty good with your predictions so I hope you're right. Getting back to my old games teacher, maybe there is something in what he used to say I wouldn't get too carried away with us yesterday, as BS said in his post match interview, we've a long way to go yet......
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| Leigh's last 2 tries were off very forward passes
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| Quote ="Yosemite Sam"We've showed we can attack but Leigh have some strong forwards so I feel it's defence and completion that will win this
Having said that I was very upbeat after yesterday and much more confident of a win
Come on the Trin'"
Salford's forwards dominated today. All game. Chase and Dobson ran the show. They will throw everything at you in the first twenty, and if you weather it they will rely on high-risk plays. They are very good at running high risk plays, mind you, and can score in broken-play from anywhere. If you play smart, and with heart, I think you'll beat them fairly comfortably. The big question for me, is will Leigh come with a sensible gameplan to try and get the win or play their usual throw-and-hope style. They know this is a crucial game, but I think they'll play more desperation stuff than the hard percentages. This will play into your hands imo, and I think Smith will have a solid game plan ready to go.
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| I think we've learnt enough this weekend to know exactly what we have to do.
Make sure our pack dominates from the off and we control possession. If we have long periods of possession like we did against Bradford then there is little that Leigh can do.
We know Leigh are good in attack and there is little doubt they will score a few past us. I suspect they have the quicker players too. However, they seem woeful in defence. If we played a controlled game then we can win this comfortably.
If we panic or cough up possession too easily (and be penalised for striping when we clearly haven't - again!) then it is going to be a tough match for us.
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| IF our forwards click as they did yesterday Leigh will not live with them. Like I said IF they do they will lay the foundations for a comfortable win IMO.
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"IF our forwards click as they did yesterday Leigh will not live with them. Like I said IF they do they will lay the foundations for a comfortable win IMO.'"
You may have a point.
Leigh are very good going forward, but they certainly haven't shown that they can compete defensively. They rely on outscoring rather than quality defense. Your forwards will be key in keeping the speed of the ptb high and tiring out their forwards. Salford did this all match today and they got run over. The final score flattering Leigh imo.
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| Reading between the lines it sounds as though Paul Rowley is accepting defeat in attempting promotion. I think it's too early to say that, unless he knows something about his squad that no one from the outside would know.
Maybe he realises now the toll that's been taken on his players in fighting a hard Championship campaign, Challeng Cup matches and then 7 weeks of Super 8s.
My mind goes back to 1998 and HKR, after we'd beaten them black and blue they were expected to go to Featherstone and win, setting up another game against us. However, they were done, physically and mentally they had nothing left and subsequently got flogged against Fev.
Is Paul Rowley seeing the signs of fatigue in his team, are they busted?
Rowley said: "[i=#4000FFwe came up against a Salford side who played to a high Super League standard. They were much too good for us and our kicking game was really poor.
"It's man in the mirror and keep our nerve time now. It wasn't do or die today but we have to keep our swagger and our heads held high and go again.
"The Super League club's finances have a bit to do with it but it's proving an impossible dream at the moment for championship clubs."[/i
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Reading between the lines it sounds as though Paul Rowley is accepting defeat in attempting promotion. I think it's too early to say that, unless he knows something about his squad that no one from the outside would know.
Maybe he realises now the toll that's been taken on his players in fighting a hard Championship campaign, Challeng Cup matches and then 7 weeks of Super 8s.
My mind goes back to 1998 and HKR, after we'd beaten them black and blue they were expected to go to Featherstone and win, setting up another game against us. However, they were done, physically and mentally they had nothing left and subsequently got flogged against Fev.
Is Paul Rowley seeing the signs of fatigue in his team, are they busted?
Rowley said: "[i=#4000FFwe came up against a Salford side who played to a high Super League standard. They were much too good for us and our kicking game was really poor.
"It's man in the mirror and keep our nerve time now. It wasn't do or die today but we have to keep our swagger and our heads held high and go again.
"The Super League club's finances have a bit to do with it but it's proving an impossible dream at the moment for championship clubs."[/i'"
Yeah but I bet his house is immaculate, he must have met a load of plasterers, painters and roofers the last few years!
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| From what I saw last week,and from reports of todays game at Salford,it would seem the discipline at Leigh has been acceptable.I don't think it will last.
A former NRL player,recently at Featherstone,came out with a lovely quote - “They play a very hard style of football, as I found out when I was in the Featherstone side at Blackpool.
“At times it was like prison rules,
It can be found at the very bottom of this [url=http://salfordonline.com/6078-salford-super-8-hansen-exit-shock-threatens-to-overshadow-watsons-leigh-build-up.htmlLINK[/url
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| I don't really like how this is going.
We played well against Salford and against Bradford too but it's a start of a road, not the downhill. We've only got one win.
We have to be as ruthless against Leigh as we are capable and we need to improve on the weak areas.
We can't just assume two losses mean they'll roll over for us.
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| Exactly Trinity have only 2 points so far and Leigh are the team that are still most likely to challenge Trinity for that Super League spot.
No time for thinking it's going to be easy when it isn't....Leigh knocked us out of the Challenge Cup and that should not be forgotten. It's time to repeat that first 30 minute start against Bradford but keep it going for 60-70 minutes...dominate in the pack and give Miller and Tim Smith room to play. I'd expect Johnstone to be in the 17 as his pace will worry Leigh if he gets any space.
Come on Trinity keep it up..get that pride and confidence back..
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| Quote ="asmadasa" I'd expect Johnstone to be in the 17 as his pace will worry Leigh if he gets any space.
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Agreed. Johnstone before Riley any day of the week. Looking forward to another trip to Leigh. Nice tidy ground and always prefer away games when crowd support is required.
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| If Locke is ready Lee Smith could go into the centres and put Tupou out on the wing
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't really like how this is going.
We played well against Salford and against Bradford too but it's a start of a road, not the downhill. We've only got one win.
We have to be as ruthless against Leigh as we are capable and we need to improve on the weak areas.
We can't just assume two losses mean they'll roll over for us.'"
Quote ="asmadasa"Exactly Trinity have only 2 points so far and Leigh are the team that are still most likely to challenge Trinity for that Super League spot.
No time for thinking it's going to be easy when it isn't....Leigh knocked us out of the Challenge Cup and that should not be forgotten. It's time to repeat that first 30 minute start against Bradford but keep it going for 60-70 minutes...dominate in the pack and give Miller and Tim Smith room to play. I'd expect Johnstone to be in the 17 as his pace will worry Leigh if he gets any space.
Come on Trinity keep it up..get that pride and confidence back..
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I don't see any posts where people are suggesting Leigh will be easy or that they'll roll over.
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| Salford and HKR have done to Leigh exactly what a proper SL side should do; dominate them in terms of energy and power, weather their headless chicken style of play and accept that they might score a few off it, but trust the processes and systems to get a win. They play exciting heads up rugby and they've got some pace and skill, but they fold when they're physically dominated in the middle - their forwards were bullied by Salford yesterday and that allowed Chase and, to a lesser extent Dobson, to run riot.
We need the same game plan that we used against Bradford, with additional note paid to how quickly they try to promote the ball to their edges - which are quick; a bit more attention paid to stopping offloads and discipline in the defensive line should take care of that.
Easier said than done like - they have a fair bit of fight in them and we're far from the finished article.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't really like how this is going.
We played well against Salford and against Bradford too but it's a start of a road, not the downhill. We've only got one win.
We have to be as ruthless against Leigh as we are capable and we need to improve on the weak areas.
We can't just assume two losses mean they'll roll over for us.'"
It could quite easily be points difference separating 4/5/6. Being ruthless in both attack & defence can make the difference. BSmith knows this.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Salford's forwards dominated today. All game. Chase and Dobson ran the show. They will throw everything at you in the first twenty, and if you weather it they will rely on high-risk plays. They are very good at running high risk plays, mind you, and can score in broken-play from anywhere. If you play smart, and with heart, I think you'll beat them fairly comfortably. The big question for me, is will Leigh come with a sensible gameplan to try and get the win or play their usual throw-and-hope style. They know this is a crucial game, but I think they'll play more desperation stuff than the hard percentages. This will play into your hands imo, and I think Smith will have a solid game plan ready to go.'"
We will play the way we have for the last two years, we don’t have it in us to play any other way, and for me regardless of the recent results its good to watch and long may it continue.
As per normal yesterday the best team won, and I expect the same will happen on Saturday.
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| Some interesting selection headaches coming up over the next few weeks.
If Kevin Locke is fit to play we really have to find a place for him and the only place is Full Back where Lee Smith has been superb.
If Brian Smith likes Scott Moore then decision 1 is does he become our first choice hooker over Michael Sio and decision 2 is where do we shoehorn Godinet into the side. My choice would be to exclude Moore in favour of a Sio/Godinet Hooking combination.
With Richard Owen injured who replaces him?
Tom Johnstone for me, he deserves a chance to play in a team that's defending relatively well, his reputation as a defender took a battering but few of the tries conceded were actually his fault.
Other options are Lee Smith to centre/Tupou to wing with Locke at Full Back or aStraight swap of Riley or Hall or Tansey in for Owen.
If Lauitiiti is 100% then how does he get a game?
For me, on current form it'd be in place of Walker who has had a couple of strong performance followed by a couple of below average ones.
Crowther/Annakin/Yates might get some game time versus Halifax and Sheffield though I'd be very guarded about taking to the field with a much below full strength team.
Interesting selection headache that is nice to have.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Some interesting selection headaches coming up over the next few weeks.
If Kevin Locke is fit to play we really have to find a place for him and the only place is Full Back where Lee Smith has been superb.
If Brian Smith likes Scott Moore then decision 1 is does he become our first choice hooker over Michael Sio and decision 2 is where do we shoehorn Godinet into the side. My choice would be to exclude Moore in favour of a Sio/Godinet Hooking combination.
With Richard Owen injured who replaces him?
Tom Johnstone for me, he deserves a chance to play in a team that's defending relatively well, his reputation as a defender took a battering but few of the tries conceded were actually his fault.
Other options are Lee Smith to centre/Tupou to wing with Locke at Full Back or aStraight swap of Riley or Hall or Tansey in for Owen.
If Lauitiiti is 100% then how does he get a game?
For me, on current form it'd be in place of Walker who has had a couple of strong performance followed by a couple of below average ones.
Crowther/Annakin/Yates might get some game time versus Halifax and Sheffield though I'd be very guarded about taking to the field with a much below full strength team.
Interesting selection headache that is nice to have.'"
Hasn't Moore torn his bicep?
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