On that performance will we beat the Bulls, Leigh, Widnes or Hull kR. I can see us just scraping past Halifax and Sheffield but only just. Not good enough I'm afraid.

I don't agree at all.
But we both knew that.

Nothing of the sort but next week is absolutely crucial.

Give it a week or two and you'll be right.

Why the chuff did we wait til 5 mins before the end of the first half to start playing? If we'd have played the whole game like we played the second half, we'd have won that with room to spare.

Truly baffling!

Our record against the Bulls is awful. IMO if we had to lose one game that'd had to be it. Today was the warning that the ship is heading towards an iceberg.

Giving teams a head start is becoming something of a trait this season.

So based on your assumptions, we will probably win five games, does that almost confirm relegation?

It should be "we will NOT". Well done for spotting my error.

Listening to radio leeds and they are reporting that Brian Smith is very upset and has banned any coaching staff or players from talking to the media. Thought you were going to do it when you hit the front.

Not yet, but dumb mistakes like today will kill us.
What's happened to lynnes pace also. Looks like he's playing with lead boots on.

I've always had faith in Brian Smith and a handful of the players, but I genuinely don't think the majority have the ability and/or the passion to keep us up.
That said we still have hope but the Bradford game Sat is now a MUST win game.

I think your team will get better with each match. Smith needs to keep their chins-up. Salford are always tough to beat at home, and you run us close. A little bit more cohesion and you'll be fine.

Good luck with your remaining fixtures.

Two teams that look like they could be in trouble today. One or both of Leigh and Bulls will beat Wakey. That means they may now struggle to get the 8 points for third - if that is what it takes. With only 7 games it is vital you don't lose the first two.
This is going to be an intriguing little competition. Next week is vital for both Bulls and Wakey in massively different ways.

Thanks Butcher. 6 more games to find out.

Never been a believer that past results make any difference whatsoever. If we play well next week then we will beat them as i believe we are the better side. If we play poorly we will likely lose. Its up to how the guys perform on the day, nothing more nothing less.

No not really, in my opinion once we had swapped our front row getting rid of Anderson,Moore and Scruton. The new combination of Walker Sio and Mullaly got us on top and that showed in the last 10 minutes of the first half and in the first 20 mins of the second half.

We then swapped them around again and it went pear shaped again and Salford got back on top.

Ridiculous decision to take the 2 when we were only 2 points in front and on top. That added to some stupid decisions/unforced errors in play cost us dear. What it did show is that Miller and Smith have the talent if the forwards are on top.

Could not get to game today and managed to listen to last 15 mins on Radio Leeds. Anyone know what it was that has caused Brian Smith to throw his teddy out of the cot. Radio Leeds stated categorically that BS steadfastly refused to be interviewed by them but also banned any other member of the club to be interviewed either. The radio presenter seemed to be disappointed there was no interview.

So what was it that has got BS so uptight. Was it the teams performance, the refereeing or what? All it mentioned was something about team A and B in training procedures with everything being practiced so that everything went in favour of team A or something to that effect. Was a bit baffled with it all. Anyone know?

Think what he meant was that there is team A (Salford) and team B (us) and the referee decides that team A will win.

He was probably frustrated that we did not get a penalty in the fist half but they got 4 or 5. Dont think the gripe is the penalties that are given but those that are not. When we got in front at 18-16 they get 2 piggy back penalties which led to Pattersons try to put them back in front.

Of coure he may have meant something completey different.

Where I think we lost it was when on their line and winning 26-22 Scott Moore put a kick in when it looked preferable to me to pass the ball and if we did not score take the tackle on the line and keep them down at their end. Isn't hindsight wonderful.

Shocking decision. No team in the modern game ever not ever takes 2 when your only 2 up. Messed up game management. Who the hell ordered it?

I thought you did well and showed enough spirte and class to finish at least in the top 4, also your fans showed more class than salford who throw cups etc at Miller, unlike Wakey fans who didn't react to Classless Paterson.

I hope you return over Salford and Leigh.

Salford got the rub of the green first half but we got it with some in the second. The two penalties you mention were penalties simple as and daft ones at that. BS has thrown the teddy out of the cot by the sounds of his press conference comments and quite honestly its not justified in my view and a bit pathetic really. He needs to get rid of this victim mentality he seems to have developed recently and concentrate on improving our discipline.

Why the sudden rush to condemn ? Seems strangely masochistically gleeful ?! No, I'm not naive, or rose-tinted but I think context is key. We didn't know today if we were going to be blown away by 30 and shown up as having no hope of even competing.

Instead, a team that should beat us week in week out in paper, with almost superior players in every position, frankly, got away with one. We lost it, they didn't outclass, outperform or out- enthuse us.

Most games this year have left me feeling depressed but this one is frustrating. Ours to win, the better team and we conspired to throw it. That's very different to obeying smashed by 40 every week.

Much will be made of Tupou blowing the pass to Owen but in the last 4 mins alone, scruton threw a bad pass in their ten, knocked on at the ptb, simon turned over an offload and gave away a pointless pen to piggy back them to safety.

We weren't unlocked by a superior 13 men - two of their tries were length of the pitch efforts which lets face it are arbitrary ; no coach plans for, plays for or builds a strategy on them.

Nothing against Salford - they didn't"t 'rob' us and their tactics were spot on 1st half ; but when we started to play, they didn't / couldn't compete - we ran in two quick scores.

Moore was Awful imho But I don't think anyone else was poor (merely stupid at crucial moments)

If the sentiment of the post was one of exasperation, frustration or lamenting that at the end of the eights we may count the cost of is, I absolutely concur. But surely to write us off based on that game is ludicrous ?

It is of course a results, not a performance business but I don't think that performance suggests we will necessarily lose the next 6 matches and thus be relegated, hence my questioning of the post.

If he thinks we lost because of the referee then we are in bigger trouble than anybody realised.