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| Wood, Wilde, Walshaw and Annakin. We don't have four Trinity products in the first team very often but they all looked to match up to Wigan well today .Hooker is definitely Wilde's best position, I cannot see why him and Wood cannot share the duties of sub when Aiton is fit . Annakin is already a regular and desevedly so. Walshaw looked twice the player that Malloy is . Why did we waste the money on Molloy when we have Walshaw?
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| Wildie looked more comfortable at number 9 and got the ball out quick while putting himself about a fair bit in def and attack. May have played himself back into the team today. Despite being the victim of Charnleys top finishing Walshaw was strong in defence and adds that size too.
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| Quote ="Poynton"Wood, Wilde, Walshaw and Annakin. We don't have four Trinity products in the first team very often but they all looked to match up to Wigan well today .Hooker is definitely Wilde's best position, I cannot see why him and Wood cannot share the duties of sub when Aiton is fit . Annakin is already a regular and desevedly so. Walshaw looked twice the player that Malloy is . Why did we waste the money on Molloy when we have Walshaw?'"
Good question for "an evening with Mr Agar"
Really impressed with Walshaw's effort today, especially when the lad has been playing for a lower end CC club all season
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| I agree on all counts.
Keep Wood in the halves
Play Wildie off the bench as hooker
Play Walshaw instead of Molloy
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| Not sure we can play Walshaw, he did go for the season.
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| Wildie looked pretty comfortable at 9 to me - he got the ball away quickly and made some cheap metres when they were available; I don't recall him being too leaky in defence either.
Maybe it's time for him to come off the bench for Aiton?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Wildie looked pretty comfortable at 9 to me - he got the ball away quickly and made some cheap metres when they were available; I don't recall him being too leaky in defence either.
Maybe it's time for him to come off the bench for Aiton?'"
He did enough to ,ake me think the same.
Wood can stay in the halves too while Sykes or Smith or Smith injured are injured.......and I think I'd like to keep him there with Tim Smith in the long run.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He did enough to ,ake me think the same.
Wood can stay in the halves too while Sykes or Smith or Smith injured are injured.......and I think I'd like to keep him there with Tim Smith in the long run.'"
I was less convinced by that - he did some good stuff, but his kicking was, at times, inexplicable; we don't manage games very well as it is, so a kick out on the full at a crucial period is a killer blow.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I was less convinced by that - he did some good stuff, but his kicking was, at times, inexplicable; we don't manage games very well as it is, so a kick out on the full at a crucial period is a killer blow.'"
I understand what you are saying.
I prefer his tackling and running to both Sykes and Smith but they each have much better kicking and passing respectively.
I do think that with Lee Smith playing the kicking issue is less of an issue, and his running game gives a much needed directional change than just Tim Smith on his own.
I'm bound to ask, what your alternative would be?
Are you saying you wouldn't play him or you would just play him until Sykes is back?
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm bound to ask, what your alternative would be?
Are you saying you wouldn't play him or you would just play him until Sykes is back?'"
I don't have one!
I guess my point is that I was less convinced by him than I was by Wildie; given the injury crisis and our lack of options I'd leave him there, but I would have him working really hard on simple kicks in play that help to manage a game - it's clear that he has the chip over the top in him and I like his confidence in putting them on and chasing them down, but we also need to understand when it's time for a simple touch-finder or one that bounces towards in-goal and turns the opposition around.
All may be for naught of course, if he's Shudds bound, as the rumours suggest.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Wildie looked pretty comfortable at 9 to me - he got the ball away quickly and made some cheap metres when they were available; I don't recall him being too leaky in defence either.
Maybe it's time for him to come off the bench for Aiton?'"
I have seen Matey Wildie play loads of games over the years right from the season we signed him.
Let him run and tackle and he will not let you down. Give him the responsibility to kick and think and
you quickly see his problems.
No brainer, just develop him as an hooker and forget the scrum half option.
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Quote ="bren2k"Wildie looked pretty comfortable at 9 to me - he got the ball away quickly and made some cheap metres when they were available; I don't recall him being too leaky in defence either.
Maybe it's time for him to come off the bench for Aiton?'"
www.superleague.co.uk/match_report/8875 don't tell the whole story but Wildie appears to have done the job asked.
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Maybe it's time for him to come off the bench for Aiton?'"
www.superleague.co.uk/match_report/8875 don't tell the whole story but Wildie appears to have done the job asked.
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| Those stats look great for him. I knew he worked hard but that is excellent.
Only eclipsed by 35 tackles and no missed tackles from Kirmond. He was outstanding and was very unlucky to be on the losing side.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Wildie looked pretty comfortable at 9 to me - he got the ball away quickly and made some cheap metres when they were available; I don't recall him being too leaky in defence either.
Maybe it's time for him to come off the bench for Aiton?'"
Considering the lack of game time that Matty has had he stood up well in defence and distribution against the top side in the competition so a thumbs from me in the sharing of the hooker role with Paul Aiton.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Wildie looked pretty comfortable at 9 to me - he got the ball away quickly and made some cheap metres when they were available; I don't recall him being too leaky in defence either.
Maybe it's time for him to come off the bench for Aiton?'"
I'd give him starting spot next week at hooker, put Aiton at LF (if he's fit) and have Washy interchanging.
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| And interestingly Lynne made 29 tackles as opposed to co centre Collis with 17.
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| Some very interesting stats in there for the arm chair coaching staff.
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| stats dont mean owt to me all depends whos doing em i go with what i see some of collis tackles were try saving crash tackles most of lynnes tackles were second and third man in tackles not trying to discredit the kid but not bulling him up either, if i were the coach wouldnt get carried away with the stats
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| Quote ="jacques"And interestingly Lynne made 29 tackles as opposed to co centre Collis with 17.'"
I know what side of the field i would attack and if i was a coach who i would target, but i'm not a coach.
Well done to him all the same , he's making steady improvenment.
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| The stats show that Wigan made significantly more yardage when they had ball in hand. Are the stats right for Annakin though he only made 13 metres yardage in total?
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Wildie looked more comfortable at number 9 and got the ball out quick while putting himself about a fair bit in def and attack. May have played himself back into the team today. Despite being the victim of Charnleys top finishing Walshaw was strong in defence and adds that size too.'"
Harsh to criticise Walshaw for getting skinned by Charnley; he can do anybody. Walshaw looked like the kind of forward we have been crying out for all season. Tall, solid, quick, strong, hard to take down and off loaded the ball. Looked a handful, unlike most of our forwards all season. I'm afraid it just cements my feeling that Agar just cannot spot a good player from a mediocre, from a bad one. We will be lucky to keep Walshaw, especially if we keep treating him like a spare part. A performance like Sunday will be noticed
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| So the stats count for Kirmond and Wildie , but not for Lynne.
The trouble with this lad is that he was brought in by Agar and people already anti Agar were willing him to fail.
Also people see him usurping the places of the likes of Cowling etc.
He is on a hiding to nothing.
Give him a break.
Its not his fault he is in the team ahead of peoples' favourites.
He is a young lad making his way , I hope he succeeds, along with the likes of Cowling , Kaye etc.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Not sure we can play Walshaw, he did go for the season.'"
Really?? That is so frustrating. Hate to sound like a scratched record but Agar has to be very accountable for that decision. An awful one
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| Quote ="jacques"So the stats count for Kirmond and Wildie , but not for Lynne.
The trouble with this lad is that he was brought in by Agar and people already anti Agar were willing him to fail.
Also people see him usurping the places of the likes of Cowling etc.
He is on a hiding to nothing.
Give him a break.
Its not his fault he is in the team ahead of peoples' favourites.
He is a young lad making his way , I hope he succeeds, along with the likes of Cowling , Kaye etc.'"
He hasn't got it, sorry he just hasn't. I cannot see it. There were a number of young players on the pitch on Sunday who looked like they did or might have, but he still looked like a headless chicken at times to me. He upped it a bit but not massively. He is patently not big enough to play centre in Super League whatever you say about how he may have played on Sunday. I admire anyone with the guts to cross the line as they say and he's not utterly useless; he can attack a bit and is fast, but we will keep shedding tries by the barrell whilst he plays centre, I'm sorry to say
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| Quote ="jacques"And interestingly Lynne made 29 tackles as opposed to co centre Collis with 17.'"
It wouldn't simply be that Wigan, knowing where we're weak, ran at that side more?
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