smith getting subbed, discuss

Counter productive.

Because he's crap.

Pathetic. He did some decent stuff today and made a few mistakes. Not sure why he's taking the majority of the stick we need more go forward so he has a platform to work from.

This, no need.

The sooner him Collis and Southern are on their way the better. How can a captain spend an hour on the bench? Hendo was twice the player on half the wage.

Inevitable. If you play that badly for that long then I am affraid thats whats going to happen. He is the Audley Harrison of RL, does alot of talking alot of guesturing but when it comes down to it he refuses to take anyone on, and has no guts.

To say that I am disgusted at these individuals is an understatement. I am embarrassed to share the same air as these 'fans' who do such counter productive things. Pathetic idiots.

Mathers was captain today but I agree with the sentiments bar collis.

Also... Smith is doing better/offering more than John imo

Thought the kicking in play was a million times better than the rest of the season. We were actually having scrims on their 10m line on more than 1 occasion. Thought he did ok for most of the game. Wingers and centres defensive frailties are the issue for me

Was stood behind him after Warrington scored, Morro came on and was talking to the players Smith wasn't listening, Morro shouted "timmy" to get his attention he continued paying no attention and just mooched about looking in the opposite direction to Morro and the rest of the players.
The player who should have gone up to that point in my view was John who offered less than nothing, but clearly his attitude had ed off Morro sufficiently.

Didn't know Mathers was captain to be fair, only going on team announcer saying the captain Steve Southern. However Collis gets owned every week by his opp. number. Smith offers nothing.

It was pathetic - no need at all.

Abuse from the sideline makes one do things they don't usually do....that is all i will say

Go on, who offers more?? Intrigue me..please

I just don't get this hatred towards Smith.Fair enough he has brain farts but so does every player but what people are forgetting is that he is playing behind a beaten pack every game and is often kicking out of his own 20-30 metre zone cos the forwards are ineffective.
Think if he is here next year and with some decent forward signings he will come good as he has shown his passing can be sublime and his kicking would be better if we were not being dominated.

Keyboard warriors wont realise this because they have never played the game...at any level!

Fully agree regarding John total waste and this is leaving Smith trying to do everything and being exposed.

Keyboard warrior? Whatever. How about Wildie, Walshaw or Annekin to name 3. I've paid for my ticket and I'll have my say whether on this forum or on the terrace.

Yes, you are a keyboard warrior. Annakin or Walshaw?! Please, one is a loose forward or 2nd Rower and the other is a Centre/2nd Rower! Excellent like for like replacement arguement!!

Whatever any forum members say WTW won't get anybody with a better pedigree than Tim Smith. He has proven NRL quality and experience but like others say he is under pressure due to a pack not going consistently forward or winning the collision.



THE ONLY WAY WE WILL GET THE BEST OUT OF OUR PLAYERS IS TO SUPPORT THEM FULLY NOT PULL THEM APART. ITS A CONFIDENCE GAME & SMITH HAS SHOWN SOME REAL QUALITY AT TIMES DURING THE SEASON. HE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT HE IS BE WILLED ONTO PRODUCE INSPIRATION TO A STRUGGLING TEAM. TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER.....

i know some people prob won't agree but if your pack isn't going forward then as a half back you are on a loser as you have no space or time to work and create plays, to me we can match in forwards for 40/60 mins at best then we are shot to pieces as we just arn't big enough in forwards, that said tim smith needs to take line on more as does johns to be fair too many sideways plays for my liking, but this is just my humble opinion

ok help me out here

southern smith and john are getting al the hammer

but very big ali isnt????????????????????

booing smith pointless and stupid, just look at the second half forward battle and you have the answer.

wire fans good as always tho.

Eh???

Not the lads biggest fan, but you never boo one of your own, when he's being subbed. Never.