Did Hudds have to get out of first gear today. They just seemed to be able to soak up all our pressure and score at will.

Are you going to start another thread tonight?

Do you ever get out of reverse gear?

What's with all the pointless new threads.

beginning to calm down. I was staggered at just how poor we were today. Hudds were there for the taking and we just can not do the basics. Lets not even start on not taking pen kicks from infront of the posts.

I'll back the OP up all the way!

I got shot down for having a dummy spit 2 weeks ago - well now what? How long can we just put everything down to them 'being a new team'? I don't chuffing care anymore about waiting for them to 'bed in' the fact is that we have now lost 4 games on the trot that we won last year - supposedly with a poorer side - yet this side have shown nothing but weakness, physically and mentally!

My other half is a decent judge of the game - I have been trying to convince her that this lot are better, but today I cannot justify that claim - it has to be earned and it has not been.

Huddersfield were there to be beaten today - just as Widnes took their chance against a weakened Wigan - but we are not good enough at all and I am beginning to believe that what we have is a false dawn. Put it this way, if I was paying that lot substantially more than I was paying last years squad, then I would be demanding much more for my money than what is currently being served.

Bored beyond belief!

I've always thought your lass knew more about rugby than you



all joking apart you are right and something needs to be done soon

Way over the top summary, chill out a bit. Wasn't this season supposed to be rebuilding process ? We competed for a large chunk of this game as we have the others, last seasons team in these conditions would have shipped 50+ points.

Think it's about time we stop this waiting for the team to click business.

The face is the team have been training and playing together since before Christmas. Can only hide so long behind that old chestnut.

Time to man up and get some points on that table for the trin.

Maybe, but I am not prepared to accept such mediocrity any more. We have seen the CV's of the players we have signed and they are - on paper - significantly better than last years lot - a large part of which was thrown together, in much more adversity than this molli-coddled lot, and yet they at least began the season with some heart and desire which, if this lot could muster even 10% of, they might actually win something.

Sport is very much about entertaining, but the most entertaining thing of all is to see your side win, without winning it is for the purists only - and by that definition then I am not a purist.

I am a Wakey lad and I want to see Wakey winning - nothing else is good enough and that should be the attitude of everyone at the club. I'm not interested in praising half-finished business - time to get serious - NOW!

Part of the problem is, if we'd have won a game or two in the close ones we lost, the pressure wouldn't be mounting up and the fans wouldn't be as bothered about losing to Hudds but it is and you can feel that some are losing patience. I agree with the above that it is about rebuilding and the vibe will be very different if Newmarket gets the go ahead but you have to be competitive and gets some wins to keep the fans interested and happy.

I think most supporters have been listerning to the Management and being understanding on the teams need to "Gel". However todays game was a demonstration by some of the WTW on how not to play the game. There were more basic errors in the game than you could count, the defence was amaturist. No good keep bulling this team up, at their current showing they are simply not good enough to play top flight rugby league

Agar out!!

The problem is that of all the talk of needing to gel and bed in the facts are we aren't getting any better. In fact today we have possibly even gone backwards, some of the 'moves' were, quite frankly, pathetic. Three nice passes from John to cockayne and that was it. Not good enough i'm afraid, not by a long way. I fear what Warrington are going to do to us next week.

Never mind Warrington I would Kack myself if we played Wides next.

Bring back John Kear.....

Thanks meast, i'm waiting for the first Wakey fan to start a thread along those lines, and believe me it won't be a long wait.

And with 15 minutes left we were a whisker from 20-24 down and in the ascendency. Maybe they didn't get out of first gear but maybe that was due to our efforts? They have been playing together for the best part of 2 years and have better players than us simple as. They are a well oiled machine, we aren't. Yet.

TRB you are the new NGB4C - can I have a fiver?

Not from me - you cheeky bugger!

We've played 5 chuffin games, for christ sake!
You've put a positive spin on some real garbage in the past, because you're a fan of the club. Well time to put a bit of perspective into this, and at least give this new team half a season to find itself. If we haven't improved by then, fill your boots, but for now, at least give the players/coaches the same chance you were pleading for in the not too distant past.

OK Boss!



However, how much of this have you seen yet - I guess just the ones on Sky. We are making the same mistakes all the time. Put it this way, it's losing fans - one I know very well indeed has already told me she ain't going to any away games this season and will only go to the home ones because she has a season ticket. I may well be past my sell-by date, but I just haven't got the stomach for watching another season of losing rugby - it hurts too much.

But nevermind, we can all go and congratulate the players on their losing performance on Twitter and convince ourselves that we're 'nearly there'

Perhaps its because my expectation's of this team were low from the start, but I've been pretty much entertained for all of the first three home games, same can't be said of the last two season's. I think the side has gone ok so far, and with a bit more composure could've had at least two more wins this season. I wasn't happy with Agar's appointment, but I'm prepared to give it at least half a season before I start judging this him and this side.

I don't know why you'd go for the "how many games have you seen" cheap shot, to be honest. No more or less than in recent seasons, is the answer. I've seen enough games as a fan of this club for over 40 years to be able to make a judgement, thank you. I still stick with Trinity, so why the snide dig?

You've put up with far worse than this in the past, and have actively encouraged people to attend and watch it. What's your problem now? Did you really expect us to put a team of world-beaters together after the franchise OK and be topping the table after round 6? You seem to have been willing to cut the Richardson/Kear regime a lot more slack than you're prepared to give to Glover/Agar. Why is that?

Wow there cowboy!



That wasn't intended as a dig - I know you get to as many as you can and you spend a lot to do so - no question about where your heart lies.

Having a dig back doesn't help either. I think the problem is that I have allowed myself to get drawn into expecting better BECAUSE we have a new regime, and I am utterly frustrated at our inability to get to where we want / need to be.

No, I don't expect us to be top of the table, but we have played, IMO, some winnable games - and haven't because we keep making the same mistakes every week.

So apologies if you thought I was having a dig, but please don't go looking for an angle that doesn't exist!

They may have been winnable, but that's in part due to the players we now have. Forget the "we won this game last season" stuff... if that held true, we wouldn't need to bother playing at all. "We keep making the same mistakes every week", but until you've played together as a team for a reasonable amount of time, you will keep making the same mistakes...

Give it half a season, and look for improvement then. Certain things we can't change, like the need for a block-busting prop or a proper kicker... those things are obvious to anyone, even Agar... but at least give the coach some time to mould a team together. Widnes beat Wigan this afternoon... hey ho