After 4 games this guy has done one good kick in the first 30 seconds against bradford. This is quite worrying. The 1st half kicking yesterday was like a 8 year old just randomly kicking it into the fullbacks hands. Really it was that bad. The FB didn't get turned around once. Yes our forwards are small but they worked hard and were put under pressure by our appauling kicks. We may aswell of nurtured Gareth Moore. I am convinced he would have done more than 1 good kick in 4 games. Questions now need to be asked im affraid !

Who is Isaac Johns ????

If you're going to start this seasons scapegoat campaign at least have the decency to get his name right.

An 8 year old wouldnt kick as at mini mod rules they are not allowed to kick until u10's

thought we had singed matthew's younger brother then.

I must admit issac johns sounds better than just john, maybe we should change his name to that might make him better at kicking

According to John Kear on Sky last night, he's also Isaac Luke.

Do you actually know who plays for Wakefield
You canno0t make it up

his name is Isaac John and I think he's been more consistent than smith so far not amazing or anything but has shown some flashes of what could be in a few games time

Atkins does too according to his sig!

Will you give him and the rest of the team a chance. He is a young lad who is plying his trade on the other side of the world, he is 4 games in!

We always knew it would take time to gel. For me the signs are encouraging, defence has improved, we look like we are trying to play a more expansive game which is great to watch. We have not been smashed by anyone and can count ourselves unlucky against the two Hull sides. We are yet to play a top side and the next few weeks will give us a clue as to where we are.

I am happy for "Johns" to find his feet this season and look forward to watching him develop!

Give him a chance!!

I knoww i prefer where we are now than this time last year!!

Well said that man

Neither halfback has been outstanding, but neither have they been that bad either. They need time and they will improve.

To be honest the same can be said for a large proportion of our side. A case in point is the centres, Collis & Mellars. Done ok but after four games neither have either a try or an assist yet. We need more from them as well.

Wasn't John kicking into the wind?

Did you go to the Hull game away the kicking was utter pathetic. I would have done better myself seriously it was that bad. He has lots of improving to do; that was rock bottom sunday as far as kicking goes. PATHETIC !

If you think he's that bad player why not compare his stats to those of Lee Briers who is one of the best established 6's in sl playing in arguably the best team in sl. For a 23 yr old, in his first full season, at the other side of the world, doesn't read too bad to me.

Just had a look at stats, not a lot between them.

Certainly not when you take the other factors into consideration.

NGB4C will be Agar's high profile signing next year

Exactly and the way he's starting to get made into a scapegoat is sad to say the least and I thought SOME of our fans were better than that tbh. There's been some far better and more experienced players than Isaac, that have made the move to the other side of the world and taken far longer to settle and find their feet both playing wise and personally wise, just look at guys like Finch, Richards, Chase and how long it took them. The kid deserves a break and needs supporting fully, it's not as if he's even been a bad or even close to it, it's just that he hasn't found his confidence yet.
We've obviously brought him over to develop him further because he's got a heap of talent, young and hasn't played much first grade at all. He isn't going to do that by sending him down to the second team after 4 games or even 6 or 7, we need to look long term with him.

Now that I'd love to see!!

Like I keep hinting to you there is a club about 8 miles

in this direction from BV that would be thankful of your support as far as I am concerned you are an internet keyboard warrior.

Give him more time and support him, no point knocking anyone at this stage.

Oh how i'd like the club to set up a competition between you two!

You think he would come out from behind his computer into public view do you? I bet he wouldn't

We're four games in for Gods sake, neither Smith nor John have been dreadful (kicking game apart maybe), both have shown signs that there are things there to work with, both have set up tries (remember Johns sweet short ball to a charging ali v widnes ngb4c??) and admittedly both haven't been outstanding. Lets give them some time to settle in and support them rather than bag them from the off.

i had a giggle at that but bill arthurs didn't seem to notice.