Seeing as we all agree about being light in the forwards what about someone like Stu Dickins from Fev. Good tough forward and can kick as well. I know his is not the youngest but would surely be worth a year. Go easy with the replies

Not going to shoot you down, actually going to agree with you. We need a 'old school' prop.

Couple of years ago would have agreed completely. Very solid, reliable pro who gives his all - unforutately though I think this ship has sailed though.

Been a fantastic servant for Fev. A good solid grafter with the added bonus of being able to kick goals. Wouldn't be that expensive, so I'd give him a go. But I suspect at this stage of his career he wouldn't want to leave Fev.

We might be on the light side but I belive the days of the 15/20 mins a game prop are on the way out with the reduction in interchanges.So we might be on a good thing only time will tell.

I seem to think his agent tried to get him to Wakefield before he joined Fev.

He'd have been good but I reckon he'd be better staying at Fev. He is big dog there. He'd be good to average with us and only going down hill. His career would benefit by staying at Fev.

I understand what you guys are saying but I still think he could do a job for us, can't help but think we are going to get mullered in the props.

DOWES

If you are going to be shot down it will be for stating the obvious. I think we have got enough players capable of playing Prop. It's not that we won't compete, we will - players will fill the gaps. However there is no doubt that a Tronc or a Watene would be the final piece of the jigsaw and would change us IMO from good outside bet to top eight certainty so long as we are lucky.

Bit I don't get is that people were bagging Fozzard when he was a possibility - logically that makes Dickens is non starter. Say what you like about Fozzard, even on one leg he's better than Dickens (who is a decent lower league player and a small one as well). What Trin fans seem to want is a grizzled old pro who is cheap, can offer us another year yet at the same time has to be at the peak of his game



My suggestions (don't know how in favour they are at their existing club)

Paul Jackson
Nick Scruton - but to be honest I can't see much else.

Problem with NL1 + 2 players isn't that they are not good enough it's because they can't risk good jobs going full time on a one year deal - which is all they will get. There are a number of good props in the National Leagues and in the current economy that is where they will stay - which is sad.

im pretty sure stuart dickens has played super league!! ithink with cas tigers or sheffield eagles, so has the experiance, also if tony tonks has being givan a shot at super league then dickens is worth a punt

Salford.

He played with Salford and was treated badly by Harrison. He had flu and Harrison made him play so they had a barny and that was that. As a junior he was always picked above fielden but signed for the wrong club. At 19 Wigan wanted to sign him but Featherstone wanted £100,000 for a 19 yr old. He then nearly went to London but didn't want to move away. When he signed for Salford he could of signed for wakey and I know he still regrets that now.

He is still an awesome ball handler and I think he could cut it but I know he has a decent job as well as playing at featherstone so don't think it will happen.

Another no nonsense hard as nails prop is Ryan Hepworth from Sheffield, an ex marine, built like a barn door. Turn him full time and he could be good, better than Matty James by a mile

We need someone of a tronc and watene build or a impact prop like Sam Moa at Hull. Dowes and the likes of paul jackson would be pointless. Jackson is a small prop. Paleasina on the cheap suit anyone.?

Not anymore, the days of 15 min stints are now thankfully gone

Palaeasina would be a waste as the rule changes don't suit players like him unless you've got a prop who can do the full 80

here we go gain, Jacko is not small and is every bit as good as Sam Moa.

Jacko 5'11'' 17st 6 lls
Moa 6' 17st 12

I mean the difference is staggering between the two, you really need to check facts before opening trap.

Good call, we used to do well with these type of players.

If this is the pond we're fishing in, Rob Parker didn't do half bad at Cas last season; come to think of it, we may as well have kept Higgins.

Don't know what we have left in the kitty, but if we are looking at the likes of Dickens it does make you wonder why we just didn't keep Higgins.

Ryan Hepworth is a big tough lad and may be worth a look at as a long term project - there is still no substitute or way of training real size and toughness into a player. Something we have lost sight of in this country - unlike Oz.

1inch and 6 pounds



Jacko looks a lot smaller but by god he's chunky and hard to put down.

You guys are obsessed with past it English players. There may not be a difference in size but theres more to the game than size. Moa is a cannonball we need someone of that ilk to be the final piece. Dowes aint small but he runs it in like a teddy bear carrying a jelly baby.

Nowhere near as obsessed as you are with past it Aussies, never were Kiwi's and never actually played a game of RL before arriving in the UK South Sea Islanders.

If Sam Moa is the final piece then it's a really crap jigsaw.

If Paul Jackson were injury free and wanted to join us I'd take him. Proper tough RL players who knows his job and always gives 100% that will do for me.

Yep he'll fire off once and then he's spent.

You'll be old yourself one day.