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| IMO James Elston is on very uneasy ground.
He is well aware his choice of HC is poles apart from the fans choice, he denied RA to the fans (face to face) and the press numerous times, IMO he is in a very unstable position & could be viewed as ignoring the fans (at a time when we shoul be nurturing the support of every fan we get).
All that without considering the fact that in some WT circles he is viewed as a remaining part of the "old guard", the appointment of RA would only strengthen his critics argument of perusing the same old tactics (cheap options & a club for old mates).
JE is the 2nd in command and only takes (day to day) orders for AG (who has very limited RL knowledge), the appointment will have a great deal to do with the views and recommendations of JE; so should things not move on in 12 months time I believe JE will have a heavy share of the burden to carry.
If you think it's the right appointment we will back you as always, WT isn't a choice for most- it's part of who we are!
[size=200Appoint Richard Agar and on your head be it James Elston.[/size
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| Think the flak has started already looking at his good lady's most recent post on twitter.
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| This is no consolation to die hard Trin fans who will be supporting "the club" come what may. We now may have to put up with Agar until he fails gets a better offer. It's clear that the fans opinions (And I include those of Hull FC too) mean nothing to AG/JE if Agar does get the job.
On the positive side there's still a sale of shirts linked to a cavery offer headlining on the club website!
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| Quote ="inside man"Think the flak has started already looking at his good lady's most recent post on twitter.'"
Whats she said?
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| Without doubt, JE has put himself in a tricky spot.
He as GPFC states denied it would be agar, this I find very strange.
However, good folk of Wakefield! If this turns out to be a good appointment, I hope those who jumped quickly to criticise, are equally as quick to come back with the praise.
Just a thought.
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| I don't remember him denying it would be Agar? At the trust meeting he nether said ya or ney to it?
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Whats she said?'"
That some people are dicks. Its unclear who she is referring to but I can think of a few right now.
I don't understand why JE would want to take the risk and appoint someone nobody wants. He could have had the easy life by setting on just about anybody else who would get much more support from the fans. If he gives the job to Agar he is setting himself up for a very uncomfortable ride if it goes wrong. He isn't going to get much of a honeymoon period thats for sure. A poor first month of the season and he is going to be getting a lot more flack than if he appointed somebody, almost anybody, else. Maybe he likes trying to prove people wrong? High risk strategy if what we think is going to happen comes to fruition. I hope he knows what he's doing.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"That some people are dicks. Its unclear who she is referring to but I can think of a few right now.
I don't understand why JE would want to take the risk and appoint someone nobody wants. He could have had the easy life by setting on just about anybody else who would get much more support from the fans. If he gives the job to Agar he is setting himself up for a very uncomfortable ride if it goes wrong. He isn't going to get much of a honeymoon period thats for sure. A poor first month of the season and he is going to be getting a lot more flack than if he appointed somebody, almost anybody, else. Maybe he likes trying to prove people wrong? High risk strategy if what we think is going to happen comes to fruition. I hope he knows what he's doing.'"
Cheers.
Prob not a good move by her posting that, not with how people are feeling at the moment.
What is going on at BV at the moment??
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"IMO James Elston is on very uneasy ground.
He is well aware his choice of HC is poles apart from the fans choice, he denied RA to the fans (face to face) and the press numerous times, IMO he is in a very unstable position & could be viewed as ignoring the fans (at a time when we shoul be nurturing the support of every fan we get).
All that without considering the fact that in some WT circles he is viewed as a remaining part of the "old guard", the appointment of RA would only strengthen his critics argument of perusing the same old tactics (cheap options & a club for old mates).
JE is the 2nd in command and only takes (day to day) orders for AG (who has very limited RL knowledge), the appointment will have a great deal to do with the views and recommendations of JE; so should things not move on in 12 months time I believe JE will have a heavy share of the burden to carry.
If you think it's the right appointment we will back you as always, WT isn't a choice for most- it's part of who we are!
[size=200Appoint Richard Agar and on your head be it James Elston.[/size'"
Its not that long ago you were contemplating life in the lower leagues with god knows who as coach. You are still in SL (by default) and might have a new coach who actually took a club to a major final recently.
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| Quote ="rover49"Its not that long ago you were contemplating life in the lower leagues with god knows who as coach. You are still in SL (by default) and might have a new coach who actually took a club to a major final recently.'"
Patronsing opposition supporters don't help.
Also you have shown considerable ignorance by stating by default.
Bye.
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| Quote ="rover49"Its not that long ago you were contemplating life in the lower leagues with god knows who as coach. You are still in SL (by default) and might have a new coach who actually took a club to a major final recently.'"
It’s also not long ago you were languishing in the lower division, however, if it was intimated that Agar was coming to KR, there would be mass suicides in East Hull.
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| Quote ="rover49"You are still in SL (by default).'"
Factually incorrect.
Next!
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| Quote ="bren2k"Factually incorrect.
Next!'"
So, had Crusaders been able to compete in 2012, you are 100% sure Wakefield would have survived. I would be interested as to who you think would gave been given the boot.
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| Quote ="rover49"So, had Crusaders been able to compete in 2012, you are 100% sure Wakefield would have survived. I would be interested as to who you think would gave been given the boot.'"
We where highest rated of the C clubs from what I have been told, I think Crusaders probably saved the Quims.
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| Quote ="rover49"So, had Crusaders been able to compete in 2012, you are 100% sure Wakefield would have survived. I would be interested as to who you think would gave been given the boot.'"
Look no futher than down the lane.
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| Quote ="rover49"So, had Crusaders been able to compete in 2012, you are 100% sure Wakefield would have survived. I would be interested as to who you think would gave been given the boot.'"
Old news and an argument that has been done to death; do try to keep up.
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| Quote ="rover49"Its not that long ago you were contemplating life in the lower leagues with god knows who as coach. You are still in SL [size=200(on merit)[/size and might have a new coach who actually took a club to a major final recently.'"
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| If Richard Agar was the best of seven candidates, I'd love to know who the other six was!!!!!
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| As much as it was a time for a change of ownership and change of coaching regime at FC, I also think Agar himself needed a change too and I think it will do him the world of good.
He has been at our club a long time and given great service. Yes for various reasons it's not worked out with us but his recruitment has been good on the whole so who is to say he can't do the same for you?
Plus I doubt you will be paying him the earth salary wise (compared to other coaches on the market)...so you never know, Rich Agar could turn out to be a decent for you and get your team challenging for the playoffs again.
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| i think ag as done a very good job its a lot better than the other lot but please tell the fans what is happening most of us will back the club but we had enough ofl lies last time please come out and dismiss or confirm the rumors
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| Quote ="rover49"So, had Crusaders been able to compete in 2012, you are 100% sure Wakefield would have survived. I would be interested as to who you think would gave been given the boot.'"
You're 100% sure Crusaders would still be in??
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"If Richard Agar was the best of seven candidates, I'd love to know who the other six was!!!!!'"
like most people from over his way, richard agar can hardly speak english. he may have the best tactics, the best coaching methods, but nobody outside of his shabby homeland can listen to him for more than 10 seconds without switching off.
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| Quote ="fat faced fan"like most people from over his way, richard agar can hardly speak english. he may have the best tactics, the best coaching methods, but nobody outside of his shabby homeland can listen to him for more than 10 seconds without switching off.'"
Though he was from WMDC area
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| Quote ="feline"Though he was from WMDC area'"
speaks like a fev lad - so assume he's from there. if he isn't then he's picked up a terrible speach impedement.
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| Quote ="fat faced fan"like most people from over his way, richard agar can hardly speak english. he may have the best tactics, the best coaching methods, but nobody outside of his shabby homeland can listen to him for more than 10 seconds without switching off.'"
I disagree, he's not like that at all.
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