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| Did it happen when AG took over the club, did he strike a deal to drop down and go quietly when he took over and is everything we've seen since just going through the motions.
I am gratefull for AG taking over but on the face of it the improvments and tarting up are all very cosmetic, add to that us going backwards on the field (and yes i know its not easy bringing in players) letting BJ go and signing Semi and tonker won't have left a hole in the bank account.
I just wonder.
Yes Upton i know you'll tell me of for being negative.
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| I seriously hope he didn't.
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| I cant see it because eventually something like that would come out because they always do and I don't think it would be worth all he agro.
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| what would he gain out of doing this though?
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| and what would the fans reaction be?
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| Not in a million years.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Did it happen when AG took over the club, did he strike a deal to drop down and go quietly when he took over and is everything we've seen since just going through the motions.
I am gratefull for AG taking over but on the face of it the improvments and tarting up are all very cosmetic, add to that us going backwards on the field (and yes i know its not easy bringing in players) letting BJ go and signing Semi and tonker won't have left a hole in the bank account.
I just wonder.
Yes Upton i know you'll tell me of for being negative.'"
well thats the main course sorted for tuesday then!
seriously you have a point, but at this point we stil have a club, at that point we did not.
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| Why waste all the time and effort putting a 700+ page franchise application in then?? these ideas are getting worse!!
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"Why waste all the time and effort putting a 700+ page franchise application in then?? these ideas are getting worse!!'"
The one they threw in the bin maybe.
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"Why waste all the time and effort putting a 700+ page franchise application in then?? these ideas are getting worse!!'"
again a serious question, what other option was there??
Dreamland, we are not currently sustainable in SL. sad but true.
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| Quote ="chapster"chef.gif well thats the main course sorted for tuesday then!
seriously you have a point, [ubut at this point we stil have a club, at that point we did not[/u.'"
Thats not lost on me.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Did it happen when AG took over the club, did he strike a deal to drop down and go quietly when he took over and is everything we've seen since just going through the motions.
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I just wonder.
Yes Upton i know you'll tell me of for being negative.'"
Other than on the pitch, and I believe we could have done much more to improve that, I cant see why you would think that.
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| No can't see this at all. Like some-one said previously it would have leaked out before now. As for BJ..most of the time he played like a lemon for us, perhaps the player just wanted to move on and there's no point keeping a player that doesn't want to be here. I'm hoping AG is keeping things close to his chest until Tuesday and then will do what ever is needed and possible once the announcements are made.
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| BJ left cos he wanted a secure future, doesn't mean he didn't want to be here
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| Not chance al. The staff were working hours upon hours in order to get our application the best it could possibly be. Why on earth would ag and je have their staff working overtime, paying inflated wages if there was no goal at the end of it? I know for a fact the staff of our club have done everything they can in order for us to remain in the top flight, that it is the ultimate aim. If we fail all is not lost, plans are firmly in place for the outcome either way whereas with the old regime we would have probably only had one plan (all teds eggs were in one basket with nm). I honestly believe we have a bright future ahead of us I also really hope thus future isn't delayed for three years and if the system is applied correctly and fairly it won't be. As I've said let's not lambast the rfl before the decision is announced it doesn't help the profile of our club, it doesn't help the club full stop and it certainly won't help say the rfls decision.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Thats not lost on me.'"
Or me mate.
Starting to wonder if any of the dreamers actually read the admin report, we were 1.9 million in debt ffs!
Now a quick guess from me is that would be in the main within 3 years, so lets say 650k per year for a laugh, thats 32,500 full paying adults per season EXTRA, say 14 rounds = 2300 extra through gate every bloody week.
Its not happening, or at least soon, so its poor lowly paid players or bankrupcy in SL.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Not chance al. The staff were working hours upon hours in order to get our application the best it could possibly be. Why on earth would ag and je have their staff working overtime, paying inflated wages if there was no goal at the end of it? I know for a fact the staff of our club have done everything they can in order for us to remain in the top flight, that it is the ultimate aim. If we fail all is not lost, plans are firmly in place for the outcome either way whereas with the old regime we would have probably only had one plan (all teds eggs were in one basket with nm). I honestly believe we have a bright future ahead of us I also really hope thus future isn't delayed for three years and if the system is applied correctly and fairly it won't be. As I've said let's not lambast the rfl before the decision is announced it doesn't help the profile of our club, it doesn't help the club full stop and it certainly won't help say the rfls decision.'"
Just one serious question, where is the money coming from to make us susrtainable and competative??
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| Or more income from sponsorship, commercial, merchandise, food and beverages matchday income, additional external income......
The things we did badly or not at all are all cash generators, get these right and we will soon be on the up.
Chin up chapster, whatever happens on Tuesday, we need to all be pulling in the right direction, in which ever direction that is.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Or more income from sponsorship, commercial, merchandise, food and beverages matchday income, additional external income......
The things we did badly or not at all are all cash generators, get these right and we will soon be on the up.
Chin up chapster, whatever happens on Tuesday, we need to all be pulling in the right direction, in which ever direction that is.'"
I will be mate dont worry, just the accountant in me coming out!
Its all crap to be honest and i want this season over, get regrouped and pile back in to whichever league we are in, cos I love this sodding annoying club.
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| I have been asked to ask this question and for now i'll keep my own views to myself, but its already created interesting debate so its a winner.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I have been asked to ask this question and for now i'll keep my own views to myself, but its already created interesting debate so its a winner.'"
nah lock it, its crap!
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| With respect BigAl, get a grip. I've never read such a lot of twaddle (and there's plenty of it on here) in all my time reading it. He's spending a lot of dough here and he ain't doing it to welcome Keighley to BV. If he has other nepahrious reasons, I would be flabbergasted...this is Wakey I suppose, but I just can't see it. I think his intentions all appear decent
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| I think its an interesting question. As a counter argument you could say that it was pointless doing anything more than cosmetic changes to the ground given we don't own it and at this stage any major improvements could be money wasted if we didn't get a franchise.
The Commercial side is much better and is clearly going to be making more money than previously.
On the playing side, again it is difficult to get players in and whilst I think we should have kept Jeffries there is nothing to say him remaining would have made us win any more games than we already have (although when he was on form we may have had more of an attacking threat).
As Chapster has said we need to be moving to a more self-sufficient business plan, cos Glover aint got millions to be pouring into Wakey and if scrimping a bit this season enables us to mainatin more of our infrastructure outside of SL (particulalry community and youth development) then it will have been worth it.
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| should we gain a license, we should get Cadbury's to give the RFL (one person in particular) a year's supply of chocolate. just a thought.
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| Very much so. I'd like to know who's asked you to ask this.
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