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| Yesterday League weekly run an article on the licensing system, our Chief Exec was invited to give his view. Instead of taking the chance to point the systems flaws and unfairness, the exact things that are going to see us out, he went on about the positives and how P/R was bad for the game. The whole thing was a one sided bit of propaganda that our Chief exec played along to.
Are these views really of a person that has our best interests at heart? How can he be so passionate about a system that is so flawed and corrupt that it’s going to reject a club that’s is far from the weakest. Why not take the chance in that article to question the process and lack of transparency?
I had my doubts about this guy when he jumped ship before then made a return when things didn’t work out elsewhere. At Glovers first audience with night with I asked Elston the question, would we take legal action if we are kicked out at the expense of a weaker franchise. He just went on to say that it was in our own hands to win a franchise and expansion is here to stay. This might as well be Richard Lewis talking, what the hell, it’s not like he’s a Wakey fan or the owner of this club, he just another wage earner. When were gone from SL he will probably move on to find alternative employment in the game in due course. No point rocking the boat with your RFL buddies is there James.
Mr Glover, watch carefully who you take advice off.
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| Ooh be carefull, he has a lot of fans on here.
But Im not one of them and I agree entirely... he will be off down the road to Castleford next year with his wife hand in hand skipping up Heath Common.
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| he'd be condemned by us all if he slated the rfl in public for shooting wakefield trinity in the foot.
i don't see what qualifies him to hold the position he does to be honest, but then the same could be said for most of the people we employ.
you get what you pay for.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Yesterday League weekly run an article on the licensing system, our Chief Exec was invited to give his view. Instead of taking the chance to point the systems flaws and unfairness, the exact things that are going to see us out, he went on about the positives and how P/R was bad for the game. The whole thing was a one sided bit of propaganda that our Chief exec played along to.
Are these views really of a person that has our best interests at heart? How can he be so passionate about a system that is so flawed and corrupt that it’s going to reject a club that’s is far from the weakest. Why not take the chance in that article to question the process and lack of transparency?
I had my doubts about this guy when he jumped ship before then made a return when things didn’t work out elsewhere. At Glovers first audience with night with I asked Elston the question, would we take legal action if we are kicked out at the expense of a weaker franchise. He just went on to say that it was in our own hands to win a franchise and expansion is here to stay. This might as well be Richard Lewis talking, what the hell, it’s not like he’s a Wakey fan or the owner of this club, he just another wage earner. When were gone from SL he will probably move on to find alternative employment in the game in due course. No point rocking the boat with your RFL buddies is there James.
Mr Glover, watch carefully who you take advice off.'"
I think you need to be realistic here.
For starters Elston does, says and thinks exactly what Glover tells him. Lets not try to paint Glover as some kind of innocent in all this pleeeaaazzze.
Regardless of whether you think the club and the RFL are in cahoots over this and have been for month - or - you think the club is valiantly fighting the RFL all the way. One thing is for sure, we turn it into a public slanging match - we lose any slim chance we still might have.
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| Isn't he in more of a 'damned if you do or damned if you don't' situation? Let's not forget that many of the decisions made at Red Hall are purely agenda driven. Realistically would anyone in his position with next week's announcement looming come out and put the RFL to the sword? I think not. Whilst there is the slimmest of chances we could get lucky next Tuesday (IMHO we have two kinds of Hope, No & Bob). Rightly or wrongly JE has no option but to publicly praise the franchise system. I have worked in PR in the past and I have seen and heard many people privately be against certain things but publicly adopt a different stance in order to play the game.
Just look over the common at RW. If he could bag what he was spouting he would have sold enough fertilizer to have the money to build a stadium to rival Wembley.
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| A look at Elstons twitter account perhaps shows that he's not entirely happy with the way the licensing process has been handled.
Quote ="Elston on Twitter"Shifcofsk sammut chan Martin Ohara Witt mellors winterstein Cahill Bryant good welsh lads'"
I must say, given his position, I was surprised he posted it although a swift backtrack followed.
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| Pound to a penny say his views on franchising won't change after next Tuesday!
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| Quote ="vastman".
For starters Elston does, says and thinks exactly what Glover tells him. Lets not try to paint Glover as some kind of innocent in all this pleeeaaazzze.
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is this fact or just another anti Glover ramble? its tiresome vasty and very predictable
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| Quote ="deeHell"Pound to a penny say his views on franchising won't change after next Tuesday!'"
Depends who his next job is with.
If Trinity do go down the best route to take is the Steve O’Connor way and not the Allan Rowley way.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"A look at Elstons twitter account perhaps shows that he's not entirely happy with the way the licensing process has been handled.
I must say, given his position, I was surprised he posted it although a swift backtrack followed.'"
Especially from the record of the clubs he has been employed with for signing players from outside the country they are based in. And convince me, had the winter we had not happened, we would not have a lot more imports in our squad. Far too hypocritical there.
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If Trinity do go down the best route to take is the Steve O’Connor way and not the Allan Rowley way.'"
Having said that, it is interesting reading articles from the last round of licenses;
www.sportindustry.biz/news/view/ ... eague-snub
=#FF0000[iLewis also defended the decision to go with the Crusaders commenting: ‘Market research suggests that we have a lot of support for rugby league and the Super League in Wales.
‘It's a calculated risk to go with Crusaders. They put together a good application and convinced us they can make a real success of being a Super League club. Look at the Catalans Dragons - they have been a massive success story. They've gone from bottom of the table in their first year - when they would've been relegated had it not been for licensing back then - and now they're third in the table, have sell out crowds every week and are a top side.
‘With that in mind, Celtic Crusaders might, too, surprise everybody. We're confident about them even though it's a big step up. However they, just like the other 13 clubs, now have to deliver. [/i
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If Trinity do go down the best route to take is the Steve O’Connor way and not the Allan Rowley way.'"
Having said that, it is interesting reading articles from the last round of licenses;
www.sportindustry.biz/news/view/ ... eague-snub
=#FF0000[iLewis also defended the decision to go with the Crusaders commenting: ‘Market research suggests that we have a lot of support for rugby league and the Super League in Wales.
‘It's a calculated risk to go with Crusaders. They put together a good application and convinced us they can make a real success of being a Super League club. Look at the Catalans Dragons - they have been a massive success story. They've gone from bottom of the table in their first year - when they would've been relegated had it not been for licensing back then - and now they're third in the table, have sell out crowds every week and are a top side.
‘With that in mind, Celtic Crusaders might, too, surprise everybody. We're confident about them even though it's a big step up. However they, just like the other 13 clubs, now have to deliver. [/i
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| Bit daft of him comparing Cru with Catalans. Catalans are based in a rugby league heart land for starters
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| Quote ="Mutley Cat"is this fact or just another anti Glover ramble? its tiresome vasty and very predictable'"
Not half as tiresome as you old luv. Or are you seriously suggesting that James Elston calls the shots whilst 100% shareholder and employer of Mr Elston gropes about not konwing what he thinks. It's not anti Glover as you laughingly call it, it's reality - chack it out sometime.
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| Quote ="charlie"Bit daft of him comparing Cru with Catalans. Catalans are based in a rugby league heart land for starters'"
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| Glover = good cop, Elston - bad cop.
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| He probably back-tracked when he started to think "Korki, Rinaldi, Hendo, Morrison, Smith, Hickey, Tony, Tadulala - I better not go there !"
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| Quote ="Tigerade"He probably back-tracked when he started to think "Korki, Rinaldi, Hendo, Morrison, Smith, Hickey, Tony, Tadulala - I better not go there !"'"
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| Quote ="vastman"Not half as tiresome as you old luv. Or are you seriously suggesting that James Elston calls the shots whilst 100% shareholder and employer of Mr Elston gropes about not konwing what he thinks. It's not anti Glover as you laughingly call it, it's reality - chack it out sometime.'"
are you seriously thinking you need to use a public forum to inform us who calls the shots ? you love of using the man who displaced that fella before is tiresome . we know who does what and what clogs turn where.
do you expect befor the decision is immanently due for the bloke utmost responsible for it to slate the decision makers?
lets just cross fingers together you can blame whoever next week and im sure you will, whilst at the end of the day we all got warn a long time ago about this.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Glover = good cop, Elston - bad cop.'"
Indeed, this dewy eyed opinion that Glover is some kind of bewildered do gooder thwarted at every turn by the evil RFL is becoming ludicrous.
I don't know AG's plans/agenda though I have an idea. What I do honestly think is he took us on knowing the situation and had pretty much decided very early on what he was going to do with the club and had been negotiating accordingly ever since.
All I will say is that the squad has been consistently stripped of it's most expensive players all of whom were not replaced, most notably Ben Jeffreys. Followed by the ending of contracts this season with Morrison, Rinaldi, Korki, King and the departure of George and Murphy. This basically leaves us with Championship team. Make of that what you want.
Mutley, please feel free to over react and totally ignore a fair point.
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| Quote ="Mutley Cat"are you seriously thinking you need to use a public forum to inform us who calls the shots ? you love of using the man who displaced that fella before is tiresome . we know who does what and what clogs turn where.
do you expect befor the decision is immanently due for the bloke utmost responsible for it to slate the decision makers?
lets just cross fingers together you can blame whoever next week and im sure you will, whilst at the end of the day we all got warn a long time ago about this.'"
Do you ever read what is posted - no I don't, that's what I said - hence Elston is doing exactly as he's told by not rocking the boat
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| [urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/wakefield-wildcats/wakefield_wildcats_elston_confident_of_licence_success_1_3591561[/url
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"[urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/wakefield-wildcats/wakefield_wildcats_hickey_confident_of_sub_ten_second_100m_1_3591561[/url'"
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| Fat Faced Fan,
That achievement is distinctly possible... if the 100m was down a hill and we all got together and rolled him down it.
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| Lets just see what he actually thinks after tues when he can come out and say 1, what a bunch of ******* at the rfl or 2, told you the rfl would look favourably upon our well put together package.
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| The yorkshire post article very well put by Mr Elston. Everytime ive heard this guy speak I have been impressed come on its not a easy job. I know what a good idea is lets slate the RFL like mad before Tuesday and lets see where that will get us... Come on chaps use your loafs. Vasty you are still caught up with the most hated figure in Wakefield you have got to let your love connection with Ted and his Marks And Spencer suits go.. Come on Vasty its over move on find another lover!
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