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| according to The Sun today page 7 apparently he has been making sick comments on facebook about the japanese disater. should the club or the rfl take further action?
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| Quote ="tamargrace"according to The Sun today page 7 apparently he has been making sick comments on facebook about the japanese disater. should the club or the rfl take further action?
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It up to Leeds as a club to decide. The RFL should keep out as it would set a (relatively) dangerous precedent.
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| It's a warning to players not to say in public what they would to friends in private, and don't accept friend requests on Facebook with people you don't know!
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| Fortunately all sportsmen do not have to take IQ tests, this is especially good news for the likes of Ryan Bailey.
However who hasnt received or sent such a "joke" or posted something stoopid on Facebook/Twitter etc.
A bit of a grip on reality from the "hang em brigade" and a note of caution to the likes of Mr Bailey, who is supposed to be a roll model to the younger more impressionable members of our family game.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"It up to Leeds as a club to decide. The RFL should keep out as it would set a (relatively) dangerous precedent.'"
I agree.
Crass journalism from the Sun as well IMO.
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| Quote ="tamargrace"according to The Sun today page 7 apparently he has been making sick comments on facebook about the japanese disater. should the club or the rfl take further action?
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Absolutely not, nanny state again. It's a free country, if Bailey wishes to make crass jokes so be it, I don't need the RFL or anyone else to tell me Bailey is a fool I can see that myself.
Whilst ever I see right on politically correct comedians on he BBC slagging off anyone slightly to the right of Lenin then anything goes. I recall Jeremy Harding wishing cancer on Margaret Thatcher, hillarious I'm sure. So if that's OK then so is Bailey's joke, we can't have it both ways - the genie is out of the lamp where taste and decorum is concerned.
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| Jokes that make a mockery of the suffering of our fellow humanity are part of humanities way of dealing with tragedy and misfortune, but should be kept private. Th****er doesn't count, it never was part of the human race.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Jokes that make a mockery of the suffering of our fellow humanity are part of humanities way of dealing with tragedy and misfortune, but should be kept private. Th****er doesn't count, it never was part of the human race.'"
Thanks for making my point, you and Bailey have a lot in common
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| Thing is, did being offended ever do anyone actual bodily harm?
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Jokes that make a mockery of the suffering of our fellow humanity are part of humanities way of dealing with tragedy and misfortune, but should be kept private. Th****er doesn't count, it never was part of the human race.'"
right next time something tragic or bad happens in your sad little let us all know here on RLFans , im sure we can cheer you up with some light hearted sick banter at your expense . this will humanely remove you from your pool of sorrow and grief and give his all a PMSL is return ....
the trouble is they just dont do GCSEs for common sense
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| Quote ="Mutley Cat"right next time something tragic or bad happens in your sad little let us all know here on RLFans , im sure we can cheer you up with some light hearted sick banter at your expense . this will humanely remove you from your pool of sorrow and grief and give his all a PMSL is return ....
[size=150the trouble is they just dont do GCSEs for common sense[/size
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Woo Woo Woo, Moral Majority Alert! Watch out folks!
You're right they don't, hence some of the reactionary guff on this thread
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| Quote ="Schunter"Woo Woo Woo, !'"
stop playing at being a cho cho train and grow up
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| Quote ="tamargrace"according to The Sun today page 7 apparently he has been making sick comments on facebook about the japanese disater. should the club or the rfl take further action?
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Leeds may well have a word but i don't think the RFL should, i don't on a personal level find this stuff amusing. I do wonder though if these comments had been made by other players, would it cause such a stir or is it because its Bailey?
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| Quote ="vastman"Absolutely not, nanny state again. It's a free country, if Bailey wishes to make crass jokes so be it, I don't need the RFL or anyone else to tell me Bailey is a fool I can see that myself.
Whilst ever I see right on politically correct comedians on he BBC slagging off anyone slightly to the right of Lenin then anything goes. I recall Jeremy =#FF0000Hardy wishing cancer on Margaret Thatcher, hillarious I'm sure. So if that's OK then so is Bailey's joke, we can't have it both ways - the genie is out of the lamp where taste and decorum is concerned.'"
Edited for accuracy.
A very good, if very socialist, comedian.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Leeds may well have a word but i don't think the RFL should, i don't on a personal level find this stuff amusing. I do wonder though if these comments had been made by other players, would it cause such a stir or is it because its Bailey?'"
nah i hate all Leeds players with the same amount of disgust
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| Bailey is a berk but lets not go over the top please.
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| Quote ="Mutley Cat"right next time something tragic or bad happens
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For gods sake get a life - humour is a natural response to disaster and stress. The earliest form of cinema relied heavily on 'slapstick' humour - i.e. cruel laughter at others misfortunes because its human nature. This is no different, and I dare bet that those who contribute to relief charities will laugh at some of the jokes.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"icon_rolleyes.gif For gods sake get a life - humour is a natural response to disaster and stress. The earliest form of cinema relied heavily on 'slapstick' humour - i.e. cruel laughter at others misfortunes because its human nature. This is no different, and I dare bet that those who contribute to relief charities will laugh at some of the jokes.'"
Ignore him he's not a full shilling pal.
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| As much as I dislike Bailey I think he will have been hard done to if he is disciplined for this. A joke is exactly that, it's not meant to be taken seriously and 99% of the time doesn't reflect the actual views of the person who tells it.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Edited for accuracy.
A very good, if very socialist, comedian.'"
Probably so but imagine if I some middle aged home county type wished the same on former terrorist Nelson Mandela, Hardy would explode with indignation. Funny thing is Hardy and his ilk are so painfully in denial of their own middle class credential it would probably be his dad who said it - get out of that one Hardy!
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| Quote ="vastman"Probably so but imagine if I some middle aged home county type wished the same on former terrorist Nelson Mandela, Hardy would explode with indignation. Funny thing is Hardy and his ilk are so painfully in denial of their own middle class credential it would probably be his dad who said it - get out of that one Hardy!'"
He has something of a track record of supporting detained alleged terrorists, and as you say, is as middle class as they come.
However, he makes me laugh, because he makes people who should know better look stupid!
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| There is a fair amount of outrage on this thread about something that hasn't even happened yet; the RFL haven't indicated that they'll be taking any action against Bailey and you 'political correctness gone made' types are alrady spluttering all over your Daily Mail letters pages.
I would be surprised if Leeds don't take some action though; as his employer, they are vicariously liable for his actions and are perfectly within their rights to censure things that he says in public that could bring them into disrepute.
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| The jokes don't make me think any less of him than I already did, and I agree it is a free country and he can say what he likes.
However, because of the job he does, he represents his empoyer at all times and because of this they have said they want to investigate.
Personally, I would discipline him for it. I wouldn't scak him for it........though personally i wouldn't have employed him in the first place.
The thing with Bailey is, it isn't his first time at making Leeds look stupid. He may have already been given warnings that we don't know and this will just tip the balance.
One thing though......if he is sacked, please don't start a thread saying we should sign him. I'd rather play Davey and Wildie at prop.
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| Experts actually say people deal with trauma with humour, I'm sure the Japs are trying to lighten each others moods. Much as I hate Bailey and the fact refs give him and Leeds' forwards of the past too much protection a joke is just a joke. A prop as a role model 'should' be tough btw and uncompromising.
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"Experts actually say people deal with trauma with humour, I'm sure the Japs are trying to lighten each others moods. Much as I hate Bailey and the fact refs give him and Leeds' forwards of the past too much protection a joke is just a joke. A prop as a role model 'should' be tough btw and uncompromising.'"
There is nothing tough and uncompromising about taking the mickey out of 1000s of people dieing and many more losing everything they have.
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