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| If Glover decided to pull out because the Adminstrators strip away the assets he thought he was buying, I wonder what the NIMBYs will think about the stadium plot at NM being reallocated to more warehousing?
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| Quote ="RDM"If Glover decided to pull out because the Adminstrators strip away the assets he thought he was buying, I wonder what the NIMBYs will think about the stadium plot at NM being reallocated to more warehousing?'"
or new site for travellers.......bring it on
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| vowed to never buy a caravan but in this instance i would!
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| Channel 4 will cover it so it would be sure to get some publicity.
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| Quote ="feline"or new site for travellers.......bring it on'"
Swanley needs a new pitch for his 17 year old wife to bring up their family.
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| No, they will get 51 hectares of distribution warehousing and no more (in the short term) irrespective of a stadium or even the PI. The rumour that Wakefield MDC do have plans to allocate part of the site as a travellers site, if the stadium part of the development does not go ahead (for any reason), would appear to be growing and more than just a baseless rumour now and I have heard this from several reasonable sources. Wakefield do have to find a new travellers site from a legal perspective, so it is going to have to go somewhere at some point!
More digging to be done yet though to see if there is any real truth in this, as it is still just a rumour...
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"No, they will get 51 hectares of distribution warehousing and no more (in the short term) irrespective of a stadium or even the PI. The rumour that Wakefield MDC do have plans to allocate part of the site as a travellers site, if the stadium part of the development does not go ahead (for any reason), would appear to be growing and more than just a baseless rumour now and I have heard this from several reasonable sources. Wakefield do have to find a new travellers site from a legal perspective, so it is going to have to go somewhere at some point!
More digging to be done yet though to see if there is any real truth in this, as it is still just a rumour...'"
Talk about black monday. Half a team out the door, the clubs leading light in the community dept and then the new ground looks like a non starter.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"No, they will get 51 hectares of distribution warehousing and no more (in the short term) irrespective of a stadium or even the PI. The rumour that Wakefield MDC do have plans to allocate part of the site as a travellers site, if the stadium part of the development does not go ahead (for any reason), would appear to be growing and more than just a baseless rumour now and I have heard this from several reasonable sources. Wakefield do have to find a new travellers site from a legal perspective, so it is going to have to go somewhere at some point!
More digging to be done yet though to see if there is any real truth in this, as it is still just a rumour...'"
eastmoor residents said they will have the new traveller site.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"eastmoor residents said they will have the new traveller site.'"
Doubt the travellers will be too happy about that.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Talk about black monday. Half a team out the door, the clubs leading light in the community dept and then the new ground looks like a non starter.'"
No, the new ground will go ahead while ever Wakefield MDC and Yorkcourt wants it to, so to speak, but of course it is still subject to the PI. Newmarket does not rely on any funding from the club at all so they are not giving up on it and probably won't give up in it lightly, irrespective of the current issues at the club. The travellers site is being talked about only if things don't progress for any reason, as I understand it, on the stadium on this site, but there is no current indication that they are planning anything other than to progress with participating fully in the PI.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"No, the new ground will go ahead while ever Wakefield MDC and Yorkcourt wants it to, so to speak, but of course it is still subject to the PI. Newmarket does not rely on any funding from the club at all so they are not giving up on it and probably won't give up in it lightly, irrespective of the current issues at the club. The travellers site is being talked about only if things don't progress for any reason, as I understand it, on the stadium on this site, but there is no current indication that they are planning anything other than to progress with participating fully in the PI.'"
Sorry IA I read your previous post wrong and thought you had heard rumours that the stadium wasn't going to progress.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"eastmoor residents said they will have the new traveller site.'"
They won't have room, when the new Wakefield ring road, new 4 lane bridge across the canal and Calder, new school and new houses all get built next to them... probably!
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"icon_smile.gif Doubt the travellers will be too happy about that.'"
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"No, the new ground will go ahead while ever Wakefield MDC and Yorkcourt wants it to, so to speak, but of course it is still subject to the PI. Newmarket does not rely on any funding from the club at all so they are not giving up on it and probably won't give up in it lightly, irrespective of the current issues at the club. The travellers site is being talked about only if things don't progress for any reason, as I understand it, on the stadium on this site, but there is no current indication that they are planning anything other than to progress with participating fully in the PI.'"
Thats not what Ted said a copule of weeks ago in the league express. What happened to the £1.1million earmarked for Newmarket then Ted? You know, the balance from the sale of Belle Vue?
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| Ive heard that yorkcourt maybe looking to pull out now because of the way things are going with the club and the rising costs that are happening, Thousands have to be spent on the environmental survey and there is no guarantee of the PI going their way,can anyone confirm or refute this please
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Sorry IA I read your previous post wrong and thought you had heard rumours that the stadium wasn't going to progress.'"
No, they are committed to it and Wakefield MDC want a community stadium in Wakefield and this is the site they are pushing and will continue to push to a point where it either gets permission or doesn't as far as I am concerned and currently aware.
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| I_A I may be wrong, but Yorkcourt have a big decision to make before the Bespoke Timetable is agreed. They pull out of the PI now and go with the proposed 51 ha of land without a stadium in a few months time at no cost, or risk pulling out of the PI after the timetable is agreed, which could make them liable for all the costs of the PI?
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| Quote ="Return Of The Saint"Ive heard that yorkcourt maybe looking to pull out now because of the way things are going with the club and the rising costs that are happening, Thousands have to be spent on the environmental survey and there is no guarantee of the PI going their way,can anyone confirm or refute this please'"
Firstly, what rising costs? The only current 'extra' is to put together a more robust Environmental survey, which they probably would have to do anyway under a planning condition and therefore a reserved matter, with or without a stadium, because West Yorkshire Ecology would have pushed for them to include one and see no reason why Wakefield planning committee would not have done just that had it not been called-in. Statistically the PI is likely to go in their favour, although their is not guarantees and also they are a developer, this is all about the long haul and they just will not walk away from this that easily. They knew what they were heading into and while ever there investors are happy, they will be happy to keep pushing.
I think this one is just the usual doom and gloom rumour and nothing more. Nothing has changed for them or Wakefield MDC.
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| thats what ive been told, if they loose, they are more than likely to bare the whole costs of the PI, which will run into thousands, dont shoot me IA, but my the guy who told me works for a specialst on planning issues for very large companies (plc's)
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| Quote ="Return Of The Saint"thats what ive been told, if they loose, they are more than likely to bare the whole costs of the PI, which will run into thousands, dont shoot me IA, but my the guy who told me works for a specialst on planning issues for very large companies (plc's)'"
Of course pet........
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| Quote ="bigalf"I_A i may be wrong, but Yorkcourt have a big decision to make before the Bespoke Timetable is agreed. If they pull out now at no cost, or after the timetable is agreed, which could make them liable for all the costs of the PI?'"
They can pull out at any time they want and it only costs what it costs, which is not much relatively, until the pubic hearings and the blood sucking advocates come into play and then larger bills start coming in...
Also, it is not Yorkcourt that foot the majority of the bill for a PI is it... Wakefield MDC do!
The bespoke timetable will be published this Thursday/Friday unless they say before then, that they do not wish to proceed.
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| Quote ="Return Of The Saint"thats what ive been told, if they loose, they are more than likely to bare the whole costs of the PI, which will run into thousands, dont shoot me IA, but my the guy who told me works for a specialst on planning issues for very large companies (plc's)'"
51Ha almost guaranteed, or 85Ha at god knows what extra planning costs plus £15 million for a stadium?
I bet Yorkcourt know what they can afford
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| Quote ="bigalf"51Ha almost guaranteed, or 85Ha at god knows what extra planning costs plus £15 million for a stadium?
I bet Yorkcourt know what they can afford
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But you are assuming that Wakefield MDC's current and longer term tacit agreements with Yorkcourt are simply about this site... lots of sites and section 106 agreements to go at across the district in the next plan period!
PS. I don't actually know anything at all BTW... just how these things work!
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| Quote ="bigalf"=#FF000051Ha almost guaranteed, or 85Ha at god knows what extra planning costs plus £15 million for a stadium?
I bet Yorkcourt know what they can afford
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Bloody hell, almost missed that gem... so have you conceded this one to the power of the LDF?
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| I_A Just out of interest what other developments have Yorkcourt ongoing at the moment, apart from Paragon ( Only approx 50% completed after 5 years +) ?
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