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| You can have as much land as you like earmarked but without the cash to build it there will never be a stadium on it!
I am still unconvinced by Galloping Dick Wrong and his blogs, press releases and paper thin deadlines.
Good luck to Cas but I don't beleive a word that comes out of their chairmans mouth.
By the way someone find a way to inform the media that Cas have outline planning thats all, they hav'nt secured planning approval.
Also, I thought the land had already been secured, I'm sure Dick posed in front of the cameras a couple of years ago with JCBs in the background and a sign that said The Home of Cas Tigers or words to that effect. Wer'nt we told that earthworks were being carried out on the site of the new Cas Stadium many moons ago?
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| Quote ="yorkshireone"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,13995_6283054,00.html
thoughts
if this is the case
will we get our new stadium or are we sharing theres'"
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| Quote ="The Clan"You can have as much land as you like earmarked but without the cash to build it there will never be a stadium on it!
I am still unconvinced by Galloping Dick Wrong and his blogs, press releases and paper thin deadlines.
Good luck to Cas but I don't beleive a word that comes out of their chairmans mouth.
By the way someone find a way to inform the media that Cas have outline planning thats all, they hav'nt secured planning approval.
Also, I thought the land had already been secured, I'm sure Dick posed in front of the cameras a couple of years ago with JCBs in the background and a sign that said The Home of Cas Tigers or words to that effect. Wer'nt we told that earthworks were being carried out on the site of the new Cas Stadium many moons ago?'"
Yep I remember that as well.
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| Quote ="The Clan"You can have as much land as you like earmarked but without the cash to build it there will never be a stadium on it!
By the way someone find a way to inform the media that Cas have outline planning thats all, they hav'nt secured planning approval.
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Mate the cas Stadium will breeze through full planning, look at everything else thats built on their ..... its a no brainer!! oh and there is NOT ONE objection to overcome........... in fact all the businesses around their are DESPERATE for us to build the thing because of all the extra business..... The cash will defo be their, at least we have some assets whereas you lot have nowt and can't even pay the VAT!!
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| I heard there are a couple of businesses that don't want it, don't know whether it is true or not but could be a stumbling block for you
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| Quote ="normycat"I heard there are a couple of businesses that don't want it, don't know whether it is true or not but could be a stumbling block for you'"
What businesses in their right mind would refuse a stadium - which would bring between 5,000 and 15,000 - 13 weekends a year - on their doorstep?
Fast food outlets such as KFC, McDonalds and Nandos will benefit hugely along with Winterseam pub in Xscape. Also, the shopping outlet will find an upsurge of customers as a result.
If they had a problem with it, they'd have objected in the Outline PP application. As it was, nobody objected except a few people from Wakefield and Leeds.
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| Quote ="normycat"I heard there are a couple of businesses that don't want it, don't know whether it is true or not but could be a stumbling block for you'"
Yeah, it's not true considering all the businesses around there want the stadium there, and some were built on the basis a stadium was being built (the 2 pubs).
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| It's all well and good having planning permission for a stadium but who the hell is paying for it and where is the money coming from?
Neither club is better off than the other in my opinion.
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| The 20 acres for the stadium is worth nothing until they manage to gain control of the few square yards you need for the access roads - any news on the CPO, or for that matter any news on the removal of the building restrictions at WR?
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| I thought all this was already known were they wanted to build the stadium but they were short of funds for the complete build,what's changed since yesterday?
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| I thought it was allways theres and couldnt afford it??
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"It's all well and good having planning permission for a stadium but who the hell is paying for it and where is the money coming from?
Neither club is better off than the other in my opinion.'"
Do you know where exactly your money is coming from? All we know is that it is Warehousing but I presume that businesses will be paying for that space to fund the rest and make it viable? Empty warehousing would be costly and pointless, no? So which companies are on board in Newmarket as of this moment in time?
Who knows who the main stakeholders in Cas are. The fact of the matter is that we have enough money to do some building whether it is all of it or not.
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| Read my post again Fully... ''Neither club is better off than the other in my opinion''
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Read my post again Fully... ''Neither club is better off than the other in my opinion'''"
I know but that's my point. People keep going on about funding but no one on your side knows who your funding is coming from other than that it's "grants" and from the development itself.
Therefore, just to say Cas haven't been bleating about it doesn't mean they don't have any money to fund their stadium.
The proof will be in the pudding come Spring 2012.
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| Quote ="Fully"The proof will be in the pudding come Spring 2012.'"
When we're all having the same discussion and asking the same questions probably!
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"When we're all having the same discussion and asking the same questions probably!'"
Aye, although one or both of us will probably be in the lower leagues. Either way, frustrating nevertheless.
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| I don't think either set of fans is more reliably informed about the prospects for their own stadium than they were this time last week....we just know we won't be sharing one (well not at GH anyway, personally wouldn't totally rule out Cas moving to NM if our SL lives depended on it but can't see Wakey's project being as well advanced as ours by franchise deadline - that's not to say it won't be completed before ours)
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| Nothing will ever be built at Newmarket, it is all a total pipedream
and wakey are just trying to keep their pitiful amount of fans
happy and moderately interested. Their new permanent home
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1000 or so actual fans that pay every week... Oh no, they
will probably drag them through 2 or 3 years of spin.....whilst
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when they feel the time is right they will tell them the truth!!
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| Quote ="The Clan"Also, I thought the land had already been secured, I'm sure Dick posed in front of the cameras a couple of years ago with JCBs in the background and a sign that said The Home of Cas Tigers or words to that effect. Wer'nt we told that earthworks were being carried out on the site of the new Cas Stadium many moons ago?'"
Yep, you could watch it all happening before your very eyes on the Webcam they set up.
I think I saw a seagull once...
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| Quote ="outwood tiger"Nothing will ever be built at Newmarket, it is all a total pipedream
and wakey are just trying to keep their pitiful amount of fans
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1000 or so actual fans that pay every week... Oh no, they
will probably drag them through 2 or 3 years of spin.....whilst
trying to get the fans to bother going to Barnsley and then
when they feel the time is right they will tell them the truth!!'"
Wow! thanks for telling us that. That's it, the final straw, I'm going to support cas from now on. At least you can bellieve what Dicky Wright tells you and the fans are so much more sophisticated and intelligent. I think I'll look good in orange.
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| The bottom line is that neither club will get a new ground and we will both be playing in NL1 come 2012. At least we will have another derby vs Fev to look forward to!
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| Quote ="coco the fullback" I think I'll look good in orange.'"
You will look even better in Amber
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| Am I in Groundhog day?
Seems to me we have these inane conversations with the Cas fans (and I'm sure they have them on their board with ours too).
Lets just leave it at: we all think ours is best and will be built first, and so do they.
I can honestly say I don't care when the Cas one is built, as long as ours is built. The two are not dependent on each other.
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