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| Of course nobody particularly wants to see our great club relegated, and in the last two and a half seasons or so we have watched some good rugby, but would relegation be all that bad? There are some good sides there. I also support Barnsley FC and last season in League One it was a much more enjoyable experience each week watching a winning side than the previous season when we were continually losing in the Championship. Similarly, I remember the season prior to Trin's promotion to Super League we played some very entertaining, winning Rugby.
just a possible topic for debate!
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| We will be part time. Then it depends on the support and how long they stay around.
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| Relegation would be catastrophic. We would not be able to run all the things we currently do, especially as I believe MC said he would not be involved outside of SL
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| We also have a sizeable debt to pay back to the council for the ground. How do you suppose we pay that without superleague income?
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| We wouldn't necessarily be a winning side though. The current team would be absolutely decimated. I reckon at least 30% would be gone immediately, and another 30% would follow in the off season. All the hard work of the last 3-4 years would be reduced to nothing. It wouldn't be an easy ride in the Championship, I've no doubt about that.
Still, if you kept your Sky subscription, you could watch Bill Tupou charging down the wing for Saints, and David Fifita tearing it up at Warrington.
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| No its or buts the club will be liquidated if we get relegated. We have a ground unfit for purpose and a loan upon it which we can,t service. We are relying on the good intention of Mackie's to give us some money to pay off the loan and develop the ground.
I cant believe there is anyone out there who is stupid enough to think he will do that. He will bide his time,watch us go bust when the loan is due to be paid.
We go down the club folds
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| Plus I aren’t sure with BV as it is, we would be allowed back in
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| I suspect we’d find a level somewhere similar to Halifax
We wouldn’t trouble the promotion places but might intermittently reach the play offs every few seasons.
With no SL money I suspect we can’t afford the interest payments on the Council Stadium loan, let alone the refurbishment or rebuild costs.
We couldn’t hold onto home grown players like Tom Johnstone, Jordan Crowther, Max Jowitt, James Bachelor etc
Neither would we hold onto just about any of our current squad, players like Tupou, Ashurst, Fifita, Arona, Lyne, Hampshire would get snapped up by other SL teams or the promoted club, while some like Miller Tanginoa would probably go back down under
We might hold onto a few who are at the end of their careers such as Wood, Hirst, BJB, Arundel and maybe Kirmond would give us a season in the Championship
It’s very doubtful that we’d run a scholarship or an Academy and our Community team would be reduced to next to nothing.
Without a wealthy owner, I see no way of escaping a a decreasing level of funding until we reach a sustainable level somewhere mid table in the Championship.
I don’t see the same circumstances of 1998 ever occurring again and even if we found another Andy Kelly type figure to expertly recruit, coach & lead a team to the top, we wouldn’t be allowed back in SL while at Belle Vue.
Sorry it looks bleak but that’s probably the reality of it.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I suspect we’d find a level somewhere similar to Halifax
We wouldn’t trouble the promotion places but might intermittently reach the play offs every few seasons.
With no SL money I suspect we can’t afford the interest payments on the Council Stadium loan, let alone the refurbishment or rebuild costs.
We couldn’t hold onto home grown players like Tom Johnstone, Jordan Crowther, Max Jowitt, James Bachelor etc
Neither would we hold onto just about any of our current squad, players like Tupou, Ashurst, Fifita, Arona, Lyne, Hampshire would get snapped up by other SL teams or the promoted club, while some like Miller Tanginoa would probably go back down under
We might hold onto a few who are at the end of their careers such as Wood, Hirst, BJB, Arundel and maybe Kirmond would give us a season in the Championship
It’s very doubtful that we’d run a scholarship or an Academy and our Community team would be reduced to next to nothing.
Without a wealthy owner, I see no way of escaping a a decreasing level of funding until we reach a sustainable level somewhere mid table in the Championship.
I don’t see the same circumstances of 1998 ever occurring again and even if we found another Andy Kelly type figure to expertly recruit, coach & lead a team to the top, we wouldn’t be allowed back in SL while at Belle Vue.
Sorry it looks bleak but that’s probably the reality of it.'"
Spot in for mine. Let’s hope we don’t have to find out
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| I agree with most it would be the end of the club
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I suspect we’d find a level somewhere similar to Halifax
We wouldn’t trouble the promotion places but might intermittently reach the play offs every few seasons.
With no SL money I suspect we can’t afford the interest payments on the Council Stadium loan, let alone the refurbishment or rebuild costs.
We couldn’t hold onto home grown players like Tom Johnstone, Jordan Crowther, Max Jowitt, James Bachelor etc
Neither would we hold onto just about any of our current squad, players like Tupou, Ashurst, Fifita, Arona, Lyne, Hampshire would get snapped up by other SL teams or the promoted club, while some like Miller Tanginoa would probably go back down under
We might hold onto a few who are at the end of their careers such as Wood, Hirst, BJB, Arundel and maybe Kirmond would give us a season in the Championship
It’s very doubtful that we’d run a scholarship or an Academy and our Community team would be reduced to next to nothing.
Without a wealthy owner, I see no way of escaping a a decreasing level of funding until we reach a sustainable level somewhere mid table in the Championship.
I don’t see the same circumstances of 1998 ever occurring again and even if we found another Andy Kelly type figure to expertly recruit, coach & lead a team to the top, we wouldn’t be allowed back in SL while at Belle Vue.
Sorry it looks bleak but that’s probably the reality of it.'"
Very good post!
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| It’s all right for the players though they move on we fans only have one club SOMEONE SHOULD HAMMER HOME THAT MESSAGE TO THEM!!!!!
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| Quote ="Willzay"It’s all right for the players though they move on we fans only have one club SOMEONE SHOULD HAMMER HOME THAT MESSAGE TO THEM!!!!!'"
Players should be held to contract and take a drop in wages to suit they might think again about the situation the club's in
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| Lets hope this message is being hammered home to the players by MC and CC. That's when they're all back from holidays obviously.
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| Quote ="metallicat"Lets hope this message is being hammered home to the players by MC and CC. That's when they're all back from holidays obviously.'"
I do hope so. They like the adulation that comes with success. It's only the coaches and players that can pull us out of this mess. Players and staff move on, fans stay with the club.
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| There was a lot to be said about the old winning pay/losing pay system. I don't know if clubs are allowed to utilise any form of win bonuses these days but they were certainly an incentive in their day.
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| it would be goodbye wakey
we need 2 wins - where are they coming from
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| To answer the op, relegation would probably be terminal.
Unless there are funds already in place to develop the ground, our massively reduced income would prevent BV ever getting up to SL standard.
We've been receiving dispensation (and reduced Sky monies) for the state of the ground for a while now and despite London getting some allowance for their facilities, there is no way that we would be allowed back in.
Therefore, the best that we could hope for would be as a top 6 Championship club, with zero prospect of promotion.
It breaks my heart to see where we are heading and our future looks just as bad as it appeared when licensing was all the rage.
Unless there are 4/5 new players coming in and some help for Chester, we look utterly screwed.
It's bloody depressing
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Relegation would be catastrophic. We would not be able to run all the things we currently do, especially as I believe MC said he would not be involved outside of SL'"
Well what you believe is correct, MC has consistently said he is only interested in the club as long as it’s in Super League.
I wonder why that is the case, could it be that he is nothing more than an attention seeking Gloryboy, once the club can’t give him the oxygen of profile he craves he will be off like a shot.
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| I don’t know what goes off behind 5he scenes but I do know that Michael Carter and Chris B worked their socks off to get the club on an even keel and with a better reputation by paying of historical debt etc. There’s been no ccj,s etc whereas there was a new one every week with the last lot who run the club. I like everyone are really disappointed with how the season has planned out and honestly believe if we had had some luck other than bad luck with the injuries then we would have been h8me and dry now. Having said that the opening game against london and home games against Leeds and hull kr are games we should have won. I’ll keep the faith, it ain’t over TIL the fat lady sings. Without MC the club would have been under ages ago .
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| Quote ="Trinity Truth"Well what you believe is correct, MC has consistently said he is only interested in the club as long as it’s in Super League.
I wonder why that is the case, could it be that he is nothing more than an attention seeking Gloryboy, once the club can’t give him the oxygen of profile he craves he will be off like a shot.'"
Hmmm...first post, hey ??
Come on here to stir up a hornets nest have we ??
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| Quote ="normycat"I don’t know what goes off behind 5he scenes but I do know that Michael Carter and Chris B worked their socks off to get the club on an even keel and with a better reputation by paying of historical debt etc. There’s been no ccj,s etc whereas there was a new one every week with the last lot who run the club. I like everyone are really disappointed with how the season has planned out and honestly believe if we had had some luck other than bad luck with the injuries then we would have been h8me and dry now. Having said that the opening game against london and home games against Leeds and hull kr are games we should have won. I’ll keep the faith, it ain’t over TIL the fat lady sings. Without MC the club would have been under ages ago .'"
Absolutely agree with all of this, its simple beat London and one other game we stay up , even if we dont win any other game other than london provided we dont get hammered to screw up our points difference in the intervening period then we probable ly stay up
we have been here before - probably more so than any other club and we ve always managed to scrape home
I honestly believe the players want it as much as the fans - if not more in some cases- the worry is that at moment our defence is pathetic, mainly because its not operating correctly so nows the time for carter chester etc to be laying down the law, once the players get back from their break time to knuckle down
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| Quote ="Trinity Truth"Well what you believe is correct, MC has consistently said he is only interested in the club as long as it’s in Super League.
I wonder why that is the case, could it be that he is nothing more than an attention seeking Gloryboy, once the club can’t give him the oxygen of profile he craves he will be off like a shot.'"
Absolute rubbish.
"the club give him oxygen" ??
He's given time, cash, leadership and most of all, kept Trinity alive when there was nobody else willing to try and despite the current mire, overseen the best few seasons of our SL existence
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| Quote ="Trinity Truth"Well what you believe is correct, MC has consistently said he is only interested in the club as long as it’s in Super League.
I wonder why that is the case, could it be that he is nothing more than an attention seeking Gloryboy, once the club can’t give him the oxygen of profile he craves he will be off like a shot.'"
What a ridiculous comment! If MC was a 'gloryboy' what the hell's he doing at Wakefield!
He has aspirations for the club and what's wrong with that-haven't we all?
If everybody on this forum put comments on like the above MC would probably be off like a shot and who would blame him!
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| Quote ="Trinity Truth"Well what you believe is correct, MC has consistently said he is only interested in the club as long as it’s in Super League.
I wonder why that is the case, could it be that he is nothing more than an attention seeking Gloryboy, once the club can’t give him the oxygen of profile he craves he will be off like a shot.'"
This guy was originally spouting the same MC hatred on Twitter quite often. Probably been blocked so feels the need to get it out on here instead, as he's obviously so butt-hurt about something with MC. Get a life fella
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