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| We must stop been in denial we are in desperate need of a quality fullback for next season.
Shaul, Barber/Lomax, Matuinga (CAS), Walker, Tomlin's, Gigot...
List is endless our fullbacks don't compete with those any hope for a top 4 spot won't happen unless we sign a quality FB. Don't rate Jowett at all and Grix.
Randell, Jowett , Grix , Crowther off the books we can replace with a quality FB.
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| Compete with all but Barba and maybe Tomkins (and Ratchford not on the list) for me. Also if you ditch players in contract you have to pay them off resulting in no money to replace them with 'quality'.
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| We lost a game not for the first or last time but when we do it is always the same. I am sure if we checked every post after a loss and the club listened how many of the current squad would we have left.
It was just a game, it would have been nice to win but in the grand scheme of things it did not matter. They actually owe us a favour by being the team that saw them relegated allowing them to rebuild.
I would rather lose in a top 8 game than one in the middle eights so basically just chill.
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| You really think it's because we lost on Friday. I've thought the same for 2 years. You need pace at the back. It's a pivotal position interlink play it's vital.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"You really think it's because we lost on Friday. I've thought the same for 2 years. You need pace at the back. It's a pivotal position interlink play it's vital
.'" Quote ="newgroundb4cas"We must stop been in denial we are in desperate need of a quality fullback for next season.
Shaul, Barber/Lomax, Matuinga (CAS), Walker, Tomlin's, Gigot...
List is endless our fullbacks don't compete with those any hope for a top 4 spot won't happen unless we sign a quality FB. Don't rate Jowett at all and Grix.
Randell, Jowett , Grix , Crowther off the books we can replace with a quality FB.'"
I think Annakin would make a great full back.
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| Just when you’ve heard it all LOL ,why don’t we ask if Ritchie Mathers is available for one game to really rub Max’s nose in it,
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| Bloody hell you’ll be wanting Richie Mathers next.
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| That bloody stutter is getting worse
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Just when you’ve heard it all LOL ,why don’t we ask if Ritchie Mathers is available for one game to really rub Max’s nose in it,'"
What has Max done to cement his place in our team? What has Max done that other fullbacks in the league haven’t?
The only justification from anyone on this forum has been that “he’s one of our young lads”. It doesn’t mean anything, he’s not good enough yet people are blinded because they want him to follow in the footsteps of Johnstone.
I don’t want people to jump and say I’m like the rest, I’d love Max to secure the fullback shirt it would be another success for the club in terms of academy production and would surely benefit the club financially however comparing our fullbacks to other clubs, we’re embarrasingly far behind.
Barba/Coote (who’s replacing Barba at Saints)
Ratchford
Shaul
Mamo
Tomkins
Gigot
QLT
If we want to better ourselves, we need to be critical and improve on areas that are weak.
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| Quote ="WakeyTrin1873"What has Max done to cement his place in our team? What has Max done that other fullbacks in the league haven’t?
The only justification from anyone on this forum has been that “he’s one of our young lads”. It doesn’t mean anything, he’s not good enough yet people are blinded because they want him to follow in the footsteps of Johnstone.
I don’t want people to jump and say I’m like the rest, I’d love Max to secure the fullback shirt it would be another success for the club in terms of academy production and would surely benefit the club financially however comparing our fullbacks to other clubs, we’re embarrasingly far behind.
Barba/Coote (who’s replacing Barba at Saints)
Ratchford
Shaul
Mamo
Tomkins
Gigot
QLT
If we want to better ourselves, we need to be critical and improve on areas that are weak.'"
Is that so, if you ask nicely I’m sure MC would do a break down of finances available to Wakey for you because it seems its hard for you to grasp that we are not a Wigan, Leeds, Saints, Hull with guaranteed income to splash out on your so called quality players, and for the record I believe Max is good enough, opinions eh, who’d have em
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Is that so, if you ask nicely I’m sure MC would do a break down of finances available to Wakey for you because it seems its hard for you to grasp that we are not a Wigan, Leeds, Saints, Hull with guaranteed income to splash out on your so called quality players, and for the record I believe Max is good enough, opinions eh, who’d have em'"
Very touchy - I’m also only expressing my opinion but to keep on track with the discussion; hasn’t MC confirmed 2/3 times that we are one of the only clubs (if not the only) to have spent considerably under the salary cap?
Grix and Jowitt depart with the extra 75k from finishing 5th leaving us with a SL standard fullback and Hooley to cover?
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| Thankfully the clubs coach believes in Max Jowitt, as lots on here do, hence him signing the contract not that long since!
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| Two dropped passes and Mr and Mrs Fickle come out of the drains.
IMHO Max Jowitt's only problem is his lack of game time over the last two seasons. Hardly his own doing.
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| Quote ="WakeyTrin1873"Very touchy - I’m also only expressing my opinion but to keep on track with the discussion; hasn’t MC confirmed 2/3 times that we are one of the only clubs (if not the only) to have spent considerably under the salary cap?
Grix and Jowitt depart with the extra 75k from finishing 5th leaving us with a SL standard fullback and Hooley to cover?'"
You buy the 1000 extra season tickets to allow us to spend full salary cap, I believe that is the figure required, then you might get your wish, regarding the touchy quote, you might be right as I am involved with the youth set up and also realistic.
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| Quote ="WakeyTrin1873"Very touchy - I’m also only expressing my opinion but to keep on track with the discussion; hasn’t MC confirmed 2/3 times that we are one of the only clubs (if not the only) to have spent considerably under the salary cap?
Grix and Jowitt depart with the extra 75k from finishing 5th leaving us with a SL standard fullback and Hooley to cover?'"
Jowitt and Grix are under contract, that £75k pays them off leaving us with Hooley and Jones-Bishop. One untested and the other a decent winger but never seemed a natural number 1 and was in fact lost his place to the very kid you want to get rid of.
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| Quote ="WakeyTrin1873"What has Max done to cement his place in our team? What has Max done that other fullbacks in the league haven’t?
The only justification from anyone on this forum has been that “he’s one of our young lads”. It doesn’t mean anything, he’s not good enough yet people are blinded because they want him to follow in the footsteps of Johnstone.
I don’t want people to jump and say I’m like the rest, I’d love Max to secure the fullback shirt it would be another success for the club in terms of academy production and would surely benefit the club financially however comparing our fullbacks to other clubs, we’re embarrasingly far behind.
Barba/Coote (who’s replacing Barba at Saints)
Ratchford
Shaul
Mamo
Tomkins
Gigot
QLT
If we want to better ourselves, we need to be critical and improve on areas that are weak.'"
How dare you suggest one of our home grown talent isnt good enough...you are right though not cos of friday but while grix was out he had the chance to show how good he is but for me has been average in attack and defence wish that wasnt the case but its how it is if where to move forward i do think we need summet different..as with crowther he cant be knocked and its put out there hes still developing even though he been playing first team rugby for 4 to 5 years as he is local as with max really wish he would of shown up but he hasnt and we cant just praise cos there local boys if where to move forward
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| It's always a silly week after we lose to Cas.
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| A) Where's this mystical affordable fullback whose going to "take us forward"?
B) We need to sort the halfback situation first! :STUPID
C) Give me the name of one single fullback who didn't make mistakes at Jowitt's age.
You know what they say about opinions..:
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| Castleford have picked up two decent quality fullbacks during this season alone, the players are out there; I never said I knew who the fullback we should sign is, I just know the quality is available as it is for other clubs.
I have a different opinion and I seem to be getting shot down for it despite nobody providing any reason for why Jowitt is good enough
We even played Rocky infront if him earlier in the season, what sort of confidence does that show?
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| Quote ="Willzay"A) Where's this mystical affordable fullback whose going to "take us forward"?
B) We need to sort the halfback situation first! :STUPID
C) Give me the name of one single fullback who didn't make mistakes at Jowitt's age.
You know what they say about opinions..:
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You know what they say about opinions
Remind us all again what your was of Richard Agar
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| Quote ="WakeyTrin1873"Castleford have picked up two decent quality fullbacks during this season alone, the players are out there; I never said I knew who the fullback we should sign is, I just know the quality is available as it is for other clubs.
I have a different opinion and I seem to be getting shot down for it despite nobody providing any reason for why Jowitt is good enough
W[ue even played Rocky infront if him earlier in the season, what sort of confidence does that show?[/u'"
Once, and even then Chester acknowledged that was a mistake.
I also wouldn't count QLT as quality when he's being released and has played in the championship for most of his career.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"You know what they say about opinions
Remind us all again what your was of Richard Agar'"
Gladly he was an abysmal head coach who ruined/underperformed at every single top job he got.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Once, and even then Chester acknowledged that was a mistake.
I also wouldn't count QLT as quality when he's being released and has played in the championship for most of his career.'"
But why was it even thought of in the first place?!? Doesn’t answer my question...
QLT admittedly played the majority of his career in the championship and I’m not 100% why because he’s been more than good enough at Castleford. 8 games played and bagged 6 tries, hardly something to snub your nose at?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Gladly he was an abysmal head coach who ruined/underperformed at every single top job he got.'"
You've bagged finny,grixy aswell ! Your one of the most negative posters on here but when someone else does it you want to be 1st knight to the rescue
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