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| I know it's only Dave Nosey Parker but in his column today he's mentioned that the players union have been involved as a club have decided to issue players with notice of termination of contracts if the players don't improve,he seems to think it's a months notice, seems an odd thing to do, wouldn't they have to pay the players off? I'd have thought the club could be on dodgy grounds with this one. The union guy refused to name the club. I heard on Wednesday that a club not too far from here had given the very same warning but the notice was 90 days, this came from the father of one of the "warned" players.
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| How far away is 'not too far from here'?
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| What makes players any different from employees in any other line of work?
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| Quote ="JINJER"I know it's only Dave Nosey Parker but in his column today he's mentioned that the players union have been involved as a club have decided to issue players with notice of termination of contracts if the players don't improve,he seems to think it's a months notice, seems an odd thing to do, wouldn't they have to pay the players off? I'd have thought the club could be on dodgy grounds with this one. The union guy refused to name the club. I heard on Wednesday that a club not too far from here had given the very same warning but the notice was 90 days, this came from the father of one of the "warned" players.'"
I've often wondered about stuff like this, being involved in employment law and HR matters.
It's very difficult to form a definitive view without seeing the contracts that are used but on the face of it, it sounds like a difficult position to defend; you can't use redundancy, as the jobs are clearly not being made redundant, and putting people on notice for performance reasons sounds a bit whiffy. You can safely put someone on a performance review, but issuing them with notice at the start of that process rather suggests that you're pre-judging the outcome.
I wonder if what's actually happened is the latter - individuals are on some kind of performance improvement process (a PIMP!) but Nosey Parker and the Union, as Union's do, have picked up on it and portrayed it as a big bad employer acting unreasonably?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"How far away is 'not too far from here'?'"
Not Leeds or Fev!
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| Quote ="bren2k"I've often wondered about stuff like this, being involved in employment law and HR matters.
It's very difficult to form a definitive view without seeing the contracts that are used but on the face of it, it sounds like a difficult position to defend; you can't use redundancy, as the jobs are clearly not being made redundant, and putting people on notice for performance reasons sounds a bit whiffy. You can safely put someone on a performance review, but issuing them with notice at the start of that process rather suggests that you're pre-judging the outcome.
I wonder if what's actually happened is the latter - individuals are on some kind of performance improvement process (a PIMP!) but Nosey Parker and the Union, as Union's do, have picked up on it and portrayed it as a big bad employer acting unreasonably?'"
It does sound like the statutory notice of termination of employment, I went through all this at Xmas, but I always thought it was more a redundancy situation.
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| I'm guessing here, but wouldn't Salford be the most likely club? The Dr has been into the changing room numerous times to share his displeasure
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| Quote ="Willzay"Keith Mason?'"
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| This would tie in with another rumour that's going round that players are not getting being paid oh no here we go again lets just hope its not true.
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| Quote ="Horbury Cat"This would tie in with another rumour that's going round that players are not getting being paid oh no here we go again lets just hope its not true.'"
No it doesn't - it's nothing to do with us!
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| As Bren says, I started this thread and it has absolutely nothing to do with us!
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| Quote ="Willzay"Keith Mason?'"
Could this have been correct or are we still thinking its Cas Tigers involved in the Dave "Nosey" Parker story?
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Could this have been correct or are we still thinking its Cas Tigers involved in the Dave "Nosey" Parker story?'"
Definitely Cas tigers, I was told by the father of a player who's been served the notice.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Definitely Cas tigers, I was told by the father of a player who's been served the notice.'" it Salford anybody who knows anything about the game know it is them them and they sacked an overseas player as well this week. Instead of picking holes in Cas have a good look at your sinking ship.
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| Quote ="hard team to follow"it Salford anybody who knows anything about the game know it is them them and they sacked an overseas player as well this week. Instead of picking holes in Cas have a good look at your sinking ship.'"
Think I will take the word of a Cas players dad who was the affected party over yours
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| What baffles me about this is we (Tigers) have been doing quite well lately so I cannot see in any way how we can say players haven't performed. Since DP took over we look a completely different team in defence. If anyone looks out of place in the squad I would say Jamie Ellis and Steve Nash. Webster is injured but the club have confirmed he will be an integral part of the team next year.
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| Quote ="hard team to follow"it Salford anybody who knows anything about the game know it is them them and they sacked an overseas player as well this week. Instead of picking holes in Cas have a good look at your sinking ship.'"
You've seen where I got my info from, it doesn't get much clearer than that!
Have the school holidays started early?
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| Maybe change your name to hard thread to follow?
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| Why guess who its about, and just because JINJER says they heard it from a players Dad with no proof how can we take this as true? Player name?
Also contracts can be terminated for many reason not just financial hardship....
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| Another player who recently looked to be at risk was Ritchie Owen but he too has turned it round. He is on a decent contract at CT though (so they say) so who knows ?
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| If it is possible to terminate a contract of a player who isn't performing, Legally. Then I don't see any problem with it.
Daryl Powell has come in, And will have his own ideas, And some of our players are on over inflated contracts - If they aren't worth it, And he can get rid of them, Thats only a good thing.
I can think of 4 or 5 players that should be shown the door/ Have contracts renegotiated. And if Powell has put the players on such a warning. Thats a good thing.
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| That's not how contracts work. You can't just say, you are not playing well so I will terminate your contract.
It first of all depends on what is in the contract, whether performance indicators are in writing and then they would have to show they have made attempts to manage that problem, and also, prove that the deficiency was cause by the player alone, rather than team issues or even their own management.
Minefield to just get rid for poor performance.
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