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| according to bbc bulls deadline moved but no date as yet its tucked away in bg asking for rfl to pay aug wages
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| A complete farce The longer it goes on the more money BG gets he is laughing at the RFL.
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| Despite what anyone thinks about the situation the whole saga does not help Rugby League. We all know that the RFL have created a bumpy playing field with regards rules and standards but with the details from the bulls issue being so transparent then it just looks so bad even to someone who does not understand the sport.
I dont care either way as I only bother about Trin but I am sad to see our sport in the news with such a ridiculous issue and if you liken it to Rangers in football its not a million miles disimiliar but at least the Scottish Football League have dealt with it and the sanction does seem adequate.
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| The administrator has not sold ONE player WHY this is a complete farce if the RFL pay the Aug wage bill it is a disgrace RL stinks to the core
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"The administrator has not sold ONE player WHY this is a complete farce if the RFL pay the Aug wage bill it is a disgrace RL stinks to the core'"
The RFL have already said that they'll ensure all players get paid to the end of the season.
It must be nice to be in the club.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"The administrator has not sold ONE player WHY this is a complete farce if the RFL pay the Aug wage bill it is a disgrace RL stinks to the core'"
Absolutely agree. They shud have sold players to cut costs, but seem happy to run with the same squad and let others pick up the tab.
If they make the play offs with all these handouts, they shud be made to forfeit their place.
The non existent deadline is a joke as well. At last count I think it has been extended 5 times.
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| The RFL are just digging themselves into a massive hole. The longer it goes on the more pathetic they become.
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| Does anyone know what happened to the money from the big sale of the merchandise they had ?????
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"The RFL are just digging themselves into a massive hole. The longer it goes on the more pathetic they become.'"
Agree. IMO they are also setting a precedent which other clubs in similar difficulties could call on in their hour of need.
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| They should be selling the only asset they have - the players.
Bateman 200K
whitehouse 200K
That would pay the wages.
RFL are a joke.
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| I suspect the RFL would do anything to get through the regular season rounds and hope the Bulls don't make the play-offs. The mess caused by letting them go bust would be the worst case scenario.
The villain isn't the RFL anyway, it's the administrator. What have the RFL done exactly? They have rejected an offer they didn't like and advanced some money that was due anyway. It is the administrator is doing nothing to reduce the expenses, who wants the RFL to fund a top eight squad. It is the administrator who has extended the deadline, nothing to do with the RFL.
I'm no fan of the RFL as a body, because they do seem to apply standards differently, but I can't think much they have done wrong since the Bulls went bust.
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| If the administrator extends the deadline they should fund it not the RFL
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| Double standards without a doubt. If bradford finish in the top 8, just imagine how the sky team will make the most of it. For me the longer it goes on the less interest i have, it may be a ploy hopeing for that result.
The RFL do and should face the music , or do they already know the outcome.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I suspect the RFL would do anything to get through the regular season rounds and hope the Bulls don't make the play-offs. The mess caused by letting them go bust would be the worst case scenario.
The villain isn't the RFL anyway, it's the administrator. What have the RFL done exactly? They have rejected an offer they didn't like and advanced some money that was due anyway. It is the administrator is doing nothing to reduce the expenses, who wants the RFL to fund a top eight squad. It is the administrator who has extended the deadline, nothing to do with the RFL.
I'm no fan of the RFL as a body, because they do seem to apply standards differently, but I can't think much they have done wrong since the Bulls went bust.'"
It's the RFL's fault for agreeing to pay the wages for the remainder of the season, that's why we are seeing a never ending deadline. It's no skin off Guilfoyles beak, he's laughing all the way to the RBS.
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| Thing that I don't understand is that all the rfl need the bulls to do is fulfil their fixtures, the bulls don't need their current squad to do that. We proved that u can get by with a mediocre squad and still complete the season.
The rfl could have agreed to fund a certain figure per month for the rest of the season and that would have forced the administrators hand to cut some of the squad accordingly. The fact they haven't done so, and have therefore contrived to waste yet more of the games money that they didn't have to, is IMO another error on their part in this fiasco
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I suspect the RFL would do anything to get through the regular season rounds and hope the Bulls don't make the play-offs. The mess caused by letting them go bust would be the worst case scenario.
The villain isn't the RFL anyway, it's the administrator. What have the RFL done exactly? They have rejected an offer they didn't like and [uadvanced some money that was due anyway[/u. It is the administrator is doing nothing to reduce the expenses, who wants the RFL to fund a top eight squad. It is the administrator who has extended the deadline, nothing to do with the RFL.
I'm no fan of the RFL as a body, because they do seem to apply standards differently, but I can't think much they have done wrong since the Bulls went bust.'"
Is it this years money or future money ? If the Bulls are liquidated and its future money than the RFL can say goodbye to it.
What irks me is that the Bulls do not appear to have made any attemps to repay any of their creditors but continue with the same team with someone else picking up the bills. It sends out the message that you can spend money you haven't got and it it all goes belly up mid season, don't worry the RFL will fund you to the end of the season and who knows, you may make the play off's, find a buyer and all is well again - of couse apart from the poor creditors you don't pay and who may be forced under themselves due to non payment.
Not being hypocrital we went under owing creditors money but we did pay some bills, notablly part of the tax liability by selling Ryan Atkins and Danny Brough and the Administrator sold some of our players. I know that if Newmarket had not of been called in we would have received some monies that would have enabled creditors to be paid although it was probably only delaying the enivatable. But for all our faults at the time the Club was trying to pay bills but it was trying to bail out a sinking ship with a collander. The Bull do not appear to be attempting to pay any bills as far as the public can see
We deserved all we got and if we had ended up in the Championship it was no more than we desrved for the mal-administration of the club and the RFL needs to send out a message that spending money you have not got will not be tollerated - and that includes us if we do it again but AG seems to know what is his doing.
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| No matter how it's sliced up, Super League NEEDS a Bradford Bulls !! Hmmmm
As we are now witnessing the RFL will honour this statement until the bitter end.
Pisspotical to say the least !
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| does seem like rfl are trying to drag them through this season they've not given a new date this time just excuses about looking into the new offers. surely they should have had enough time to decide the outcome of the submitted offers.
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| Quote ="Quel Suprise!"They should be selling the only asset they have - the players.
Bateman 200K
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That would pay the wages.
RFL are a joke.'"
I agree with you but no clubs going to cough 200k for either of those - even if it's a fair market price. Not when this time next week they may be free or far less. Ferguson and Murphy did not go to Hudds at their true value so I see no reason why anyone would offer Bradford such a courtesy - but then this is SL I suppose.
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| What I don't understand is how the RFL can determine the punishment? There is no firm idea which, if any, consortium will end up owning the club, let alone how they intend to deal with the existing creditors or the future running costs!!!
By the time we had our points deduction we had new owners and AG had made clear his intention to deal with the creditors in a more than fair manner. The two situations could not be more different.
I do want to see BB continue and, preferably, in SL, but I would like to see some efforts both to raise revenue and to cut playing costs by the club itself rather than relying on RFL handouts (up front payments if you like) and the generosity (not seen for any other club previously) by certain clubs with their ticket refunds!
Very frustrating!!!
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| The Bulls situation is dragging on and on and its starting to look like the agony may well be prolonged until the end of the current season.
There seems little point in setting any deadlines as they just seem to keep moving the date further on and with the willingnes of the RFL to pay wages etc, why should they rush ?
Mr Guilfoyle must be rubbing his hands as the receivers bill keeps on rising.
It seems increddible that they have kept the squad intact and now that the deadline on signing players for this season has passed (and this deadline wont be moved !), it seems more likely than ever that they will see the season out with their full first team squad.
Why were players not offered for sale as a means of covering the wage bill ?
If this meant selling them at knock down prices, then tough, its a hard life !
The level of assistance and protection being given to the Bulls is making a mockery of the game and whilst most RL fans were sympathetic to their plight at the start of this fiasco, it is now beyond a joke.
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| another point to consider, and i do respect their intentions, but the coaching staff etc who are working for nothing are just been taken for a ride.
the players continue as is, the coaching staff do it for nothing.
will the new owners (there will be new owners, that is obvious now) have to pay back some money to the rfl that has been paid to the club. i understand some of this was/is money owed to the club, but would that be enough to pay the players.
anyone who works for bradford or does anything on match days is been taken for a very long ride.
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| I was listening to Radio Leeds this evening and on there they implied that the rules had changed and that any club who enered administration would automatically be relegated. I did not realise this, so this is where the confusion lies (with me anyway) in respect of the 'guarateed' SL place. Anyone any further info on this?
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| I was under the impression that we were told at the licence time that should we fail on the undertakings that AG made or enter administration again we would be relegated immediately
I thought that it only applied to us
That would be unfair ... But wait !!!!!
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