Back in contention for Hull.

Hope he goes well. Might head down. Will be a good team rocking out I think!

Just to clarify, he's playing in the reserves v Hull this Friday. See reserves thread earlier from Luppy.

Also to clarify its not me who said billy is playing it was wakeys social media, its says rest of team announced tomorrow,

Injured again, get rid of him.

but harsh would you of ditched Tom when he did his knees twice

He’s OOC I think we just don’t have to offer him a new deal.

Not harsh at all, he’s not played for an age, he’s getting on and will be on a good wedge. As for Tom, I’m a bit meh with him, gets injured easily, I’m disappointed but not gutted.

Let's just see what happens when he gets on the field before the 'get rid of him' comments.
He had a knock that's all

I don't think the call to get rid is harsh.

He's barely played since mid 2019, takes up a quota spot, and would think he would take up a fair chunk in our budget.

Hall has been good so far, and although a bit low on confidence right now, Reece has been good. We also have Minns and Croft.

The quota spot and budget could be used to strengthen, in another area we are lacking in.

I would look to move Minns on as well. Another waste of a signing.

I'll be honest, I was surprised we signed both Minns and JD.

If we do go down, I don't realistically think we would keep hold of Lynne and Hall.

Minns could be useful a step down a level, though

Yeah. Very poor signing.

No it's not harsh, but it is unrealistic, to get rid as you put it means he has to be paid off, as things are now he's paid weekly/monthly financially manageable get rid and you will have to find the full amount, which I'm sure your aware of we don't have the finances as providing we can find an adequate quota spot replacement he will also need paying, like it or not natural wastage is the only way unfortunately. HTH.

As you say, paying him off means paying his contract out in full.

Whilst there is no financial gain, the question is, could we use that quota spot?

If of course the extra money is there.

Did we not release Collis early.

So we keep Tupou.

Imagine this scenario

A decent NRL prop comes available, and he's been offered to super league clubs.

Toulouse put their hat into the ring, along with a few others, including Leeds. However, we don't, as we have no quota spot. In the end Toulouse bag him, and in the run in, has some stormers, in helping Toulouse to stay up.

How much would relegation cost us, probably a little more than paying Bill off, the last what 5 months or so, of his contract

It’s a frustrating situation that’s dragged on for 3 years with Bill. When he has played he’s been a shadow of his 2018 self and is a declining asset. We can better value for that wage spend when he’s gone at the years end

You seem to have it sorted out do the maths then, realistically how much is 5 months of his contract worth? £30-£40K minimum, then according to your scenario this decent NRL prop suddenly comes available because it suits your "scenario" at probably the same wages as BT if not more if he's that decent, you say that other clubs along with Toulouse all put their hats into a ring to sign this decent anonymous prop from the NRL, if and when this player comes available, don't you think that the other clubs won't want him and be able to offer him a better deal than us because we've just spent our brass getting rid of a player on the strength of this player becoming available, you've even got the perfect scenario for him where you've got him having some stormers for Toulouse to help them stay up, If I were you I'd let Mr Carter do the maths and you stick to dog walking.

Dog walking, you've seriously lost the plot!

It’s a rubbish situation for both the club and Bill unfortunately. He’s 32 this year and currently in the final year of his contract struggling to return from a Patella tendon rupture. Even if he did return, he’s been out for a year and I believe he’d struggle to get in over Hall, who’s been one of the shining lights this year and well and truly taken his opportunity. So we’re in a really difficult position of having one of our top players, who takes up a quota and Is potentially one of the higher earner. I believe he’ll just continue to rehab and try get him back in the team by the end of the year, but I doubt he’ll be here next year. A lot of teams will find themselves in similar positions, it’s just more amplified for us due to our financial situation and table position, especially seeing Toulouse signing 2 ex SOO players in recent weeks and a handy prop.

Well I saw him in the reserve game and to me he just looks like a player at the end. I also stood next to him at the end of the game and saw the huge selling on his knee cap. In my opion its a bigger gamble hanging on in hope than letting him leave.
I will just add another point , if you pay a player off early with his full contract monies he is due you save money on NI contributions . Any accountant worth his salt will tell you paying off is by far the best option.

Would it not be covered by insurance ?

So are you implying then that Carter is not worth his salt, or could the reason be that the club cannot afford to pay him off?.

I thought you started a new job dog walking, apologies if not, no further comment to add regarding your fantasies vis a vie Bill Tupou and this phantom prop from the NRL?

Mc thought bill would go home after his injury but he didn’t bill choose to have op and rehab in England