Can I have the opinion of every Rugby league fan who watched today’s game both at the ground and on TV on the decisions made today by both the ref and the idiot who hides in an undisclosed place.

True we played well below what we have experienced previously this season but when decisions go the way they went today no wonder the boys couldn’t get up a head of steamall

all opinions both in favour and against welcome.

Missed a heap load of forward passes, any further forward it would have been in Cas.

Thought Hock was lucky to get away with forearm into Pitts? Looked like he lead with it. Which your not alowed to do. IMO it was no try.

Will watch game back later and see.

But can't just blame the ref, too many silly mistakes.

Oh well

Absolutely - see my post on Dangerous Plays.
Thought we lost the game, but there were a lot of "iffy" decisions.
Too easy to blame the ref though - we lost.

Thought generally had a good game. The only one I thought he got wrong was when Coley offloaded and hit a Wakefield arm, and Bentham gave head and feed to Wigan.

Aside from that, can't have no qualms. The forearm incident was looked at by TWO Super League referees and neither penalised it, so it therefore was fine.

Thought the ref was poor and his linesmen shocking. Video ref was spot on in my opinion.

Not really, it's alla bout opinions blah blah blah.

We were not at our best, but the linesmen are a complete waste of time

Always are mate!

They do all and when they do they get it wrong.


I see Mike Forshaw was spending a hell of a lot of time on pitch yet again

think the one that we got away with was the 1st no try when Grix lost the ball for my money
apart from the forward pass in the 2nd half the ref had a good game

we cant blame refs nothing too contreversial was given a few 50/50's we werent good enough end off, and i dont want pie fans saying we are blaming ref

I thought the video ref was spineless in his decision to award the try after Hocks elbow on Pitts!

The correct decision was to disallow the try but unfortunately that would also mean a red card for Hock.

Too big of a decision for the officials when an easy option of awarding the try is available.

The thing i'm gettting sick of week in week out is the blatant forward passes going unpunished.

Its not just the odd one its numerous thats making it get more like the good old days of the rugby union forward pass that got overlooked.

Its getting now with myself to think hard about paying my hard earned money to watch refs(and linesmen especially) just overlook blatant flaunting of the rules every week.

This is happening openly on Sky TV every week for the whole of the sporting nation to have a gripe also as its effecting most teams.

Players will do it and coaches will teach it if they don't clamp down.

I will add that, despite the poor refereing, WE lost the game today because we were'nt good enough!

Also as with the league game a couple of weeks ago Noble outcoached JK.
Undersatndable to a degree because Noble has greater options and a higher quality of squad to work with.

However. . . .

The first Wigan try was a blatant forward pass, O'loughlin is stood 1 metre behing the '20' line and the ball hits the ground at least another metre infront of it.

Having said all that Wigan were the best side and deserved the win.

But my complaint is why can the paying public/TV etc see them and not the officials that are being paid to officiate correctly?

Agree Wigan had more in the tank than us on the day again.

I thought that was quite a difficult decision to make cos that's the way gareth cock plays and I'm not sure he knows any different, I think that decision could have gone either way and there were arguments for and against the decision. I thought the ref had a decent game but it's the linesmen who were, and always are, shocking. They just seem to have an inability to spot forward passes which is surely their job??

I fully agree with your post, I must say like most others we were not cheated out of the game today and this is not an excuse but it is getting stupid, I think the only way to beat it is to join in the fun and delay our passes when it gives us the edge we may need! Also I think we should learn to lay on for longer as most other teams seem to be doing this alot (dont tell scully and martin though they take it to the extreme sometimes!)

Putting the result to one side. Many of Bentham's decisions today really do need looking at. As for the touch jouges - is there really any point in giving them any responsibiliy at all? TV footage is the ideal opportunity to put the standard of refereeing under the microscope

Had a word with one Jonathan Davies after the game and he thought Wigan was the best team BUT a few reffing non decisions helped them on the front foot,I.E the forward passes.

Typical Davies 'understatement' then

The refs should be sorting out infringments like the use of elbows... not to say any names! Many a time was there line miles offside and nothing got said.... Linesmen are just as bad tho.... forward passes! So at least 2 of their tries should have been disallowed

Apart from:

* Being allowed to lay on (which we did when we realise we could get away with it)

* Being off side most of the time (so Brad Drew did the decent thing and tried a chip over - the trouble is he only tried once)

* Leading with your arm ( he might need to have a chat on Tuesday but it won't help us any)

* Mike Fawshaw was on the pitch (a lot more than he ever was when he played for us



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So what's up?????

Touch Judges are a waste of space, no doubt, but it evens out. They scored from a forward pass but had a real try ruled out when Grix lost the ball. We got a try when Martin was off-side, but they didn't look at that.

No complaints about result. We dropped it too often, as simple as that, so we never applied any pressure.

Now Wembley is no more, if Hudds win tomorrow, I expect money to change hands, and a player or two.

Sean O'loughlin consistently flouts several rules and gets away with murder imo

I'm not Gareth Hock's biggest fan but I didn't see much wrong with it. It looked much worse in lose motion, the full speed replays showed it to be little more than him pushing the defender away.

I only saw it on the big screen at the ground, but I thought it looked like the tackler came across Hock, and so was off-balance, and so went down easier than if he had been running into Hock (ie, the tacklers own momentum was away from Hock, rather than towards him). The Tomkins kick was worse, and he should have got ten minutes for that, and so a cruel shot that he scored the decisive try.

I think Wakey lost the game more than Wigan won it though. Obst was left isolated against that big girl Fielden when he went through to score, and our defence gifted that other curly-haired big girl the break that led to the try.

I suppose JJB will be full again now they are the best team in the world again.