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| First of all let me say this post is not designed to embarrass or undermine. But the mixed messages that come out from Belle Vue does have an effect of people asking the questions? And I suppose this post is so we can answer them people.
From conversations with last years supporters. Who haven't renewed season tickets as yet these were what was being asked.
M.C. said we will defiantly be in super league next year.
M.C. said if we don't get enough season tickets sold the we will have to sell players.
M.C. said directors loans are deferred.
M.C. said Newmarket on the horizon. Glover working on it.
QUESTIONS.
If we don't sell enough season tickets, and we cannot sell players then what happens ?
What sort of a team will we have to support?
With the R.L. shark clubs on the prowl wont they wait until we bleed before making poor offers for our
players knowing we have to sell to survive?
What will happen with directors loans when we are asking for investment will they be written off?
or repaid when our fortunes turn round at Newmarket?
Wont people need to know before they put their money in?
Sir Rodney said that there is a delay at Newmarket of a year. is that due to funding issues and how will
that effect our lease at belle vue ?
M.C. as taken on one of the toughest jobs in Wakefield. and as such needs all the support we can give and
yet at the same time I can understand people who are asking these questions.
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| Firstly, stand by your post. Don't blame others for raising these questions, you are raising these questions. Nothing wrong with that.
Second, I don't see it as Mixed messages, we (the supporters) don't know all these answers but I am not confused by the things Carter is saying. There is a limit to what he can tell the public I'm sure, and in some cases, they are just not answerable right now.
Saying that, I'd like to know the answers to those questions too if possible.
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| Quote ="factsareus"First of all let me say this post is not designed to embarrass or undermine. But the mixed messages that come out from Belle Vue does have an effect of people asking the questions? And I suppose this post is so we can answer them people.
From conversations with last years supporters. Who haven't renewed season tickets as yet these were what was being asked.
M.C. said we will defiantly be in super league next year.
M.C. said if we don't get enough season tickets sold the we will have to sell players.
M.C. said directors loans are deferred.
M.C. said Newmarket on the horizon. Glover working on it.
QUESTIONS.
If we don't sell enough season tickets, and we cannot sell players then what happens ?
What sort of a team will we have to support?
With the R.L. shark clubs on the prowl wont they wait until we bleed before making poor offers for our
players knowing we have to sell to survive?
What will happen with directors loans when we are asking for investment will they be written off?
or repaid when our fortunes turn round at Newmarket?
Wont people need to know before they put their money in?
Sir Rodney said that there is a delay at Newmarket of a year. is that due to funding issues and how will
that effect our lease at belle vue ?
M.C. as taken on one of the toughest jobs in Wakefield. and as such needs all the support we can give and
yet at the same time I can understand people who are asking these questions.'"
As you are well aware (and I know you are), there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes. We hope to have the answers to some of these questions at the event next week and are working with the club on them.
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| I'm surprised by the title of this thread. I think MC has been very clear in the messages he has been getting out. To the point of being over honest.
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| What is the purpose of the "new" company Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Limited set up by AG ? and why has JE joined the newco board just before resigning in his old job ?
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| Quote ="Tigerade"What is the purpose of the "new" company Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Limited set up by AG ? and why has JE joined the newco board just before resigning in his old job ?'"
Don't know ask us another.
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| You fans deserve better than that El Rey.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"You fans deserve better than that El Rey.'"
Mushrooms thats what we are.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"What is the purpose of the "new" company Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Limited set up by AG ? and why has JE joined the newco board just before resigning in his old job ?'"
Does it really matter? I think sometimes speccis expect too much info, or are you just trying to sheet stir?
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| Quote ="JINJER"Does it really matter? I think sometimes speccis expect too much info, or are you just trying to sheet stir?'"
I think it does, if we are running the open and honest line then why should we not know.
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| Quote ="El Rey"I think it does, if we are running the open and honest line then why should we not know.'"
If I were running a business I wouldn't expect people to need to know every financial detail.
I also tend to believe that too much information negative wise is hindering the renewal of memberships, Wakey fans as we've seen are a fickle bunch, they don't need many excuses not to buy into the club, negatives just give them more reasons.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"What is the purpose of the "new" company Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Limited set up by AG ? and why has JE joined the newco board just before resigning in his old job ?'"
Going back quite a few months it was set up with the possibility of going into admin and coming out again if we couldn't get a suitable deal with a supplier who was winding us up. Then there was a possibility of using same company to run the education academy.
Since then myself and Chris have found another way of doing this. So the company as far as I know is dormant and is something you'd have to ask AG and je what they plan with it but it has no bearing on spirit of 1873 ltd
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Going back quite a few months it was set up with the possibility of going into admin and coming out again if we couldn't get a suitable deal with a supplier who was winding us up. Then there was a possibility of using same company to run the education academy.
Since then myself and Chris have found another way of doing this. So the company as far as I know is dormant and is something you'd have to ask AG and je what they plan with it but it has no bearing on spirit of 1873 ltd'"
I dont pretend to know anything about the company but it cant be that dormant as it got a 6k CCJ against it a couple of weeks ago, just after James Elston became a Director of it.
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| As I say, it's really nothing to do with us. I know about the ccj but it's not my place to comment
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| Quote ="Daddycool"As I say, it's really nothing to do with us. I know about the ccj but it's not my place to comment'"
Thats fair enough and I wouldnt expect you to comment any further on it, but on another note I noticed that one of your more interlectual supporters (NGB4CAS) had messaged you some ideas to revolutionise and turn the club around I just wanted to ask if any of these had been implemented yet and also have you set up a video conferece with him at his Italy villa.
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| "Firstly, stand by your post. Don't blame others for raising these questions, you are raising these questions. Nothing wrong with that.
Saying that, I'd like to know the answers to those questions too if possible"
If I didn't stand by my post then I wouldn't have posted and you seem to be agreeing with what most people are asking.
It sounds as if some or all of the questions will be answered soon then.
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| Quote ="tigerman1"Thats fair enough and I wouldnt expect you to comment any further on it, but on another note I noticed that one of your more interlectual supporters (NGB4CAS) had messaged you some ideas to revolutionise and turn the club around I just wanted to ask if any of these had been implemented yet and also have you set up a video conferece with him at his Italy villa.'"
So rule 35 of forum etiquette......always check your spelling when trying to poke fun at another poster's intellect
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| Quote ="PopTart"So rule 35 of forum etiquette......always check your spelling when trying to poke fun at another poster's intellect'"
Not that old chestnut again
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| Quote ="Daddycool"As I say, it's really nothing to do with us. I know about the ccj but it's not my place to comment'"
Well i'll comment -as it concerns a friend of mine , until it gets sorted I won't be spending another penny at the club
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| I believe I raised the issue that a steady stream of negative news would impact badly on the supporter's desire to spend money. I know we did the right thing with Tuson but the fact he was not willing to accept that he had signed for us in his statement (had an offer from Wakefield) is just more negative news.
The longer this situation drags on without anything positive the more the rumours will start and the less likely we are to sell season tickets. I suppose the next statement will be a list of players not being retained when they come to the end of their contracts. Then we will know what we have left and just how bad next season could be.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Well i'll comment -as it concerns a friend of mine , until it gets sorted I won't be spending another penny at the club
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What an odd stance. I guess you were happy to spend money at the club when someone you didn't know was owed money by Trinity?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"What an odd stance. I guess you were happy to spend money at the club when someone you didn't know was owed money by Trinity?'"
Well if that was the case I'd never go .
It's only when you know someone personally and see the frustration that they're dealing with in trying to get back money that they're quite rightfully owed that you see why there's so much ill feeling towards the club .
This all started with the previous regime & despite a good start he's been let down by the present one .
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| There are two sides to every story. I'm sure your friend will have his side. If you'd like to meet personally I'll tell you ours. Suffice to say we thought we'd agreed a deal only to find out through the court system that we hadn't!
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| Well at the end of the day it's not my concern , and you're a busy man . But I'm sure you 2 parties will meet again & hopefully come to an agreement ( don't know if that's too late ) . But there's one thing for sure , there's no positives coming out of this .
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| I think there is. He was pretty much going nowhere under the last regime! We thought we'd agreed one proposition which unfortunately was not the case! He's more chance with us then the previous regime!
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