If we get bad news on Tuesday should we?

I have gone for option 2 mainly because if we do take legal action and loose then I think we could kiss goodbye to ever having a chance of getting back into SL ever again.

Option 2 - go down with dignity.

Didn't all clubs sign up to an agreement as part of the sky deal preventing them from taking legal action v the RFL/SL??
Someting on the lines of "if you don't sign this agreement that no legal action will be taken v sky/rfl/sl, you won't get any money"?
Or was that just champ clubs? Or is my memory going.....

If Crusaders get in at our expense purely because they're Welsh and we're English we could always report the RFL to the race relations board.

its about time the police did something about the amount of smack being sold in this city

He who dares Rodney! He who dares...

plonker

Yep, whatever happens we are better than the muppets at Red hall.


Polls are no good the trolls just invade and we can't stop that.

Waste money which can be spent on improving the club as a whole (which should have been done before) and give it to lawyers? Great idea.

Nope, no point. Invest the money in the club and move on.

For the 18th time, a contract is not binding if the terms are judged to be unfair; for example, if you work for me and your contract of employment says that I am entitled to punch you in the testicles every time you are off sick, I am unlikely to be able to enforce that contract.

That said, I'd probably say that we should take the decision on the chin - it would be suicidal and expensive to challenge the RFL and the outside world cares so little about the sport, that any perceived unfairness would not cause even a ripple of outrage. It'd be different if the governing body of football behaved like the RFL mind you - that would be front page headlines.

Bren owd lad - although I'm a community nurse NOT a solitictor, I am aware of that aspect of contract law. However, whether it was fair or not wasn't my question. My question was - didn't clubs sign up to that in their SL contracts - regardless of whether that aspect of the contract has/will be/deserves to be tested!! - I don't know - that's why I asked Bren!!

How can the RFL make a judgement on the Quins when the club itself doesn't know where it will be playing next season. Also the Crusaders are about to have their ground sold...wonder what was in their franchise application regarding stadiums? As a club I would not take the decision to relegate us on the chin without some very interesting answers to some very interesting questions!!

I know you think Im always having a go! but I just dont get why you cant see what is in front of your eyes!

The Franchise process is not a "black and white" process, the RFL are not even trying to hide this, lines such as the RFL can invite any overseas club etc proves this!

All clubs are well aware of the weight added to certain parts of the franchise process, such as developments areas.

It just suites some people to paint a picture of simple points for this and points for that process and how you are being treat unfairly in this process, when the fact is the process is nothing of the sort! it is all about who the RFL perceive to bring most to the party and who can further their objectives.

The clubs have know this all along, and it also suites them to let the fans think otherwise!

The fact is you were never in a competition with crusaders or quins and your club new that, you were in competition with every one else.

Their is no case to answer.

ps The RFL panel also consists of one of the best sports lawyers in the country!

Then surely there is no reason why the RFL do not come straight out with the announcement that the Quins/Cru are exempt!!! I know what the franchising is all about as well as everyone else, but from a legal point of view unless these clubs are known to be exempt then everyone needs to be judged equally...you can't have it both ways!!!

Well I can understand that, but they are not exempt as such, and need to feel that they have to improve standards also! however their development status will out way other criteria should push come to shove!

Having said that, I would still not be suprised to see the crusaders go this time! Due to it being unsustainable and it also making the process seem more fair to people!!!

At the end of the day I feel the RFL do not have a leg to stand on!!!!! All franchises are either judged equally or not..end of.

And therefore any agreement with the RFL is null and void due to discrimination.

You can not judge them all equally!

One of the objectives is expansion, and no of the heartland clubs will get "judged" on this!

Its not a competition it is an application for a franchise, and as such the franchiser will pick the teams who he feels best suites his business and its goals.

To put it another way if Wakefield have a great business plan that can be "proven" to be too good to refuse then the RFL would not refuse it, the problem you have is how ever good AGs plans look on paper now, they are just plans and the RFL will have to judge much of your application on history!

One final thought is that the whole process is a calculated risk for the RFL.

i think that it would be pretty easy to prove that:

if team A owes you £700k, and team B does not

you cannot claim to be impartial.

i think it would cost the RFL a lot of money to prove otherwise.

Been saying the same for many months and that point needs challenging.

Tbh it's a ridiculous state of affairs, that they are relying on Sky money, to pay the RFL back, I mean, if you told the whole story, to someone who didn't know what was going on, they wouldn't believe you.

Legal action is baseless, pointless, and a waste of a consultancy fee.

I don't see how it's baseless, all the points have been brought up on this thread and other threads, theres a lot inconsistencies from the original agreement that we signed up to. It most certainly isn't pointless, with this system in place our chances of ever returning to the top flight are so slim it's a case of nothing to lose. For me we need to keep in the top flight at all costs, Are you happy to see us just been a permanent championship club, end up with the same fate as other ex SL clubs like Oldham and Workington? Be a feeder club for the SL teams?

Where Wakefield Trinity for god sake, were one of the founding fathers of the game are we happy to be treated as victim of injustice and roll over and have our tummies tickled by the RFL. Someone needs to stand up to this corrupt regime that runs the game. If we have any chance of a successful case we should go for it and hopefully put an end to this corrupt system and return to good old Promotion and relegation. We can make the whole system look unworkable and get back to real rugby with P n R!