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| @Trojan Horse, @Pop Tart and @Butcher
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I think all of your comments are fair enough . I have no axe to grind and agree that he is a good player who can still improve . I also take note of your comments being different to other clubs who haven't seen him play week in and week out , and again you are absolutely right . With little or no coverage of the lower leagues , we weren't able to see his performances on a week by week basis .
The one thing I feel that I have to mention is his outstanding effort to reach 500 season points and break the record . A fantastic achievement even at a lower level .
The fact that he is even being mentioned as a possible England Full Back is testament to the progress he has already made, although at 27 it could be argued that it is difficult to measure at exactly what level he should be at now . I still have my own doubts about him being ahead of Evalds (in particular) and also Brierley , but that's just my opinion to be fair , we're not all going to agree .
Perhaps I was being unkind to say that he hasn't yet reached SL standard , on the basis that you spent a season in the Championship and prior to that were at the lower end of the table during Max's earlier time in SL.
I think we can all agree that it is going to be interesting to see how he goes this season and I wish him all the best (except for the 3 games against Cas of course.Hope he has a few off days against us haha)
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| [quote="Trojan Horse":tai71fnn]You will not see 4 x forwards on the bench this season. Highly unlikely. It will be 3 and a hooker most likely.
One of them will be rotation back up with Bain/Shaw/Lingard/Cozza.
Any squad, not just ours will suffer when you start getting a few injuries. That’s not just Trinity.
We can afford an injury or two in the pack and still not lose too much quality.[/quote:tai71fnn] am not suggesting we’d have 4 forwards the ones listed imo are all sl after that there is a question about the rest , so we are both prettty much in agreement. I think 2 injuries in pack and there’s a big drop in quality . Obviously all teams suffer when there starters aren’t available and perhaps lack of injuries and strength in depth is what determines league placing more than any other factor.
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| [quote="PopTart":1hv5ga2l]Develop?
Our halfbacks are pretty much the most experienced in the squad. What do you want them to develop?[/quote:1hv5ga2l]
OK how about 'produce' because neither of them have really been strikingly prominent in SL so far- especially Russell.
I would personally have preferred it if we had signed a 'name' but like I say I hope they make me eat my words!
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| Trueman is a class act if he stays fit , however my views having watched him come through the Cas ranks are that he is much better and more effective when partenring another more senior half.
At Cas he was oustanding when partnering Gale , but when Gale left and Jake became the more senior half , he wasn't as effective . That's understandable as he got a lot more of the pressure from the opposition defence when in the more senior role.
A further example of this was at FC when he did manage to play. When partnering Clifford he was excellent , but when Clifford left and Trueman was in the more senior role , he found it much harder.
I guess the question is will he be seen as the more senior of the half backs at Wakey next season . I think he will , so it will be interesting to see how he goes , although in Russell you do have someone with SL experience who can take some of the pressure of Jake .
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| [quote="Another Cas Fan":phxr42on]Trueman is a class act if he stays fit , however my views having watched him come through the Cas ranks are that he is much better and more effective when partenring another more senior half.
At Cas he was oustanding when partnering Gale , but when Gale left and Jake became the more senior half , he wasn't as effective . That's understandable as he got a lot more of the pressure from the opposition defence when in the more senior role.
A further example of this was at FC when he did manage to play. When partnering Clifford he was excellent , but when Clifford left and Trueman was in the more senior role , he found it much harder.
I guess the question is will he be seen as the more senior of the half backs at Wakey next season . I think he will , so it will be interesting to see how he goes , although in Russell you do have someone with SL experience who can take some of the pressure of Jake .[/quote:phxr42on]
I think all our halves have something to prove so I see no senior player. Trueman and Russell have got the 6 & 7, but Lino and to a lesser extent Lawford will be pushing them should they not perform. .
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| [quote="Khlav Kalash":354skigg]I think all our halves have something to prove so I see no senior player. Trueman and Russell have got the 6 & 7, but Lino and to a lesser extent Lawford will be pushing them should they not perform. .[/quote:354skigg]
Seen nothing in Russell yet (not just for wakefield!) that convinces me he's better than Lino but time will tell.
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