I totally agree that the law has to be tougher. It sickens me when I see some of the mindless filth in our society
brought before the courts having many times wrecked somebody's life, by violence or whatever, and being handed
joke sentences.
I really don't know what planet some of the juges are on, but they should hang their heads in shame and just for once think of the victim.
Not an advocate of the death penalty but life means life. simple as that.

No offence, but you talk about backward thinking and kidding yourself yet seem to have bought the Tory media spin that the election was all about Brexit, when it's about much more than that i.e. tackling increased austerity and budget cuts, most people who are truly struggling couldn't give a damn about Brexit when it comes down to it.

Rubbish.
Do your homework and listen to what all the potential leaders say, don't just pick up your comments from the lead page of the Sun or Express.

That's partly because the candidates who have launched their campaigns so far, were themselves responsible for the policy on Brexit that annoyed so many Leave voting people; Keir Starmer, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Clive Lewis were enthusiastic PV advocates, which in my view, makes them unsuitable for the role of leader. I don't include Jess Phillips, because I don't know what any of her policies are on anything, apart from herself - which seems to be her specialist subject.

Blimey is this still running! Folks it's over, Boris won BY A LOT and Brexit will happen. Move on, start supporting the nation instead of your own narrow ideologies.

As I say, it's happening. You have the choice, make a moderately bad situation far worse - or - treat it as a new beginning and a new chance to take Britain forward. It might not be what you wanted but the King Canute attitude didn't work then and it won't work now. Stop the sulking and start doing some striding is my new year's resolution.

Britain FIRST, party politics a very distant SECOND!

Seems a strange thing to post a reply to a near dead thread to bring it to the top of the list to complain that it hasn't drifted away yet.
I only let it run through the off season as it was being discussed in a mature way while the elections were on and we had nothing else to talk about.
Congratulations to those posting that kept things under control on a clearly emotive subject.

However preseason has started now so time to let this one go.