Who would have thought on 10th April 2016 when Trinity smashed Wigan 62-0 that 9 of that Wigan team would go on to win the Super League Final, especially as Sean Wane said at the time that his side were decimated and missing all his front line players. To be fair, he continues to say the same even when they have won the Grand Final.

It must be tricky to run a club when you have more salary cap on the sidelines than we can get on the field with our first team. Their accounting systems must be incredible.

So Jonh and Vasty agree that Wane is a fantastic defensive coach and that he would not be a good choice to coach the team with the worst defensive record in the league for the past two seasons. Absolute genius.

So the players and backup Wane has as opposed to Chester has nothing to do with it - genius. You really do have a very niave view on things, everything that glitters is not gold just because it's at any club other than ours most of it's just grey

Ian Milward was arguably the top coach in the league on reputation when he joined Wigan and it turned out to be a disaster. Too much history between players and coach.

Wane is Wigan through and through he lives and breathes the place, sometimes to the detriment of the team, his handling of Rocky for example.

I just don't see how it would work for him at any other club. He created the culture over years at Wigan.

He admits his form fell off drastically as a player when he was sold to Leeds and he considered retiring, I just don't see how he would bring that passion and loyalty to any other club for his management methods to work.

Ps Vasty we agree again....you should bow down to my superior knowledge!

I for one am glad we have (at the moment) no need for a SWAG meeting, I'd think it could be a little frosty with Vastman and bellycouldtackle tackle round the table.

You know it don't work like that, nobody not even Mopsey matches their screen persona when you meet them - and we both know the real Belly is a lot more mainstream than his alter ego. We'll be fine..