This time in 2011 we had 5 wins, with a worse squad than we have now. Just what does that say about today's coaching staff? I don't give a damn if people bored with another "negative" thread, I can't see us beating the total amount of wins we got that year with this better squad.

If agar was to go i think we would win more but not while he is in charge he was poor at hull and doing worse with us.we have dome good players who like you said prob better than 2011 but in my view the problem lies with agar

Said this a few weeks ago. We had kids playing and players no other teams wanted. Quite a few were playing for other teams today that we deemed not good enough yet we serve up garbage week after week.

I too have had enough of Agar now. We need to change something to inspire the players. I know it's expensive, but so would be dropping into Championship. We have enough players to stay up and Salford, London and Bradford continuously leave it in our hands. I fear if next week goes against us, we may start to panic.

Totally agree. I don't knock players as they are doing what the coach tells them and you can't expect 100 per cent if the players don't agree either. Agars probably a nice bloke but not a good coach. Can we afford Nobby as a consultant?