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Quote ="TrinityIHC"Ah so you are suggesting the club tell the RFL that they aren't going to do anything about crowd trouble as it may upset some of our fans, so please can you fine us so that they understand?
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I'm not suggesting that at all, but looking at things realistically the suspended fine ( www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19832472) covers this season only and is actually only for £1,000.
One of Davide's posts referred to the risk of a £20k fine and it seems to me that there would need to be a significant escalation in crowd troubles to reasonably justify a twenty-fold increase for any further crowd troubles.........although I do appreciate that the RFL do have a reputation of making decisions that are not based on consistency or common sense!!! 
Quote ="TrinityIHC"I could easily argue that we will recoup the lost fans by having a safe and atmospheric stadium, but it would be pure speculation, just like your post.'"
I agree that the figures I used are based on broad assumptions, but your counter argument suggests that there is actually a substantial number of potential fans who already consider BV to be unsafe and/or lacking atmosphere. IMO I think that the number of those potential fans would be outweighed by the number of fans who would choose not to attend if the West Terrace is not available for home fans.
Ultimately, the issue here is one of poor communication from the club. This was clearly a decision taken over the off-season, but for whatever reason the initial announcement was not made until Feb 1st. Other posters have already suggested that this would have (negatively) influenced their decision to buy season tickets had it been announced at an earlier stage.
The cynical perspective is that the club knew that this would be something that would not go down well with a number of fans (after all, a good number of us are stuck-in-our-ways Yorkshire folk ), but chose the timing of communication with the fans to be one that would have the lowest impact on season ticket income. |
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Quote ="TrinityIHC"Ah so you are suggesting the club tell the RFL that they aren't going to do anything about crowd trouble as it may upset some of our fans, so please can you fine us so that they understand?
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I'm not suggesting that at all, but looking at things realistically the suspended fine ( www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19832472) covers this season only and is actually only for £1,000.
One of Davide's posts referred to the risk of a £20k fine and it seems to me that there would need to be a significant escalation in crowd troubles to reasonably justify a twenty-fold increase for any further crowd troubles.........although I do appreciate that the RFL do have a reputation of making decisions that are not based on consistency or common sense!!!
Quote ="TrinityIHC"I could easily argue that we will recoup the lost fans by having a safe and atmospheric stadium, but it would be pure speculation, just like your post.'"
I agree that the figures I used are based on broad assumptions, but your counter argument suggests that there is actually a substantial number of potential fans who already consider BV to be unsafe and/or lacking atmosphere. IMO I think that the number of those potential fans would be outweighed by the number of fans who would choose not to attend if the West Terrace is not available for home fans.
Ultimately, the issue here is one of poor communication from the club. This was clearly a decision taken over the off-season, but for whatever reason the initial announcement was not made until Feb 1st. Other posters have already suggested that this would have (negatively) influenced their decision to buy season tickets had it been announced at an earlier stage.
The cynical perspective is that the club knew that this would be something that would not go down well with a number of fans (after all, a good number of us are stuck-in-our-ways Yorkshire folk ), but chose the timing of communication with the fans to be one that would have the lowest impact on season ticket income. | |
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| Quote ="JINJER"I've been one of the most vociferous in the case for staying in the west stand but I've got to disagree with you regarding the club not taking appropriate measures, this measure IS the club taking appropriate measures, I don't agree with it but that's the way they're gonna do it!'"
That's fair enough. I still maintain that little or no real efforts have been made to root out the trouble causers. It's all about opinion. |
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| Quote ="violetrwb"That's fair enough. I still maintain that little or no real efforts have been made to root out the trouble causers. It's all about opinion.'"
I think the club welcome opinions, but ATEOTD they have to make a call and it would certainly help us all achieve the aim of enjoying a safe environment if we abide by what they have asked for. Beyond that you are into the realms of it being a private company on private land and if we don't follow the rules then.....
There is a line - if you breach that line then you are in danger of becoming part of the problem rather than the solution! |
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Can't believe we're still arguing about this. Let's mve on.
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I can't believe I'm quoting Tony Blair, but when you decide, you divide; I guess the skill is leaving as few people as possible feeling disgruntled and that's what appears to have happened here, since whilst some people have what they perceive to be a valid grievance, they seem to be relatively few in number.
You can't please all of the people and all that jazz.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I can't believe I'm quoting Tony Blair, but when you decide, you divide; I guess the skill is leaving as few people as possible feeling disgruntled and that's what appears to have happened here, since whilst some people have what they perceive to be a valid grievance, they seem to be relatively few in number.
You can't please all of the people and all that jazz.'"
Be a signpost or be a weathervane.
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