Good morning GRLA - good to meet with you the other night - i was the yound cas lad that was talking to you in the line for the bottle bar. I commend you for both confronting the idiot in question and for your gracious retreat. With idiots like that around you never know exactly whats going to happen.

The club do need stewards at the bars to help control things a little and to help the young girls in the bars - what would have happened if the refused some one drinks or as in this case a fight breaks out in the line. You cant leave those grils on their own to calm things down.

As we were saying at the time - half the problems were bought on by the issue of segregation. I have been going to watch Cas Wakey derbys at both Belle Vue and Wheldon road for about ten years now and from an my perspective i have not seen any real significant trouble at a derby game before. banter yes - a few charged moments but nothing of any great significance.

However as soon as the statement was made about segregating fans and making one end "the home end" you could tell it would cause trouble. Someone said about the 80's football mentality and looking to tear it up. Ask any hooligan or read the books written by a hooloigan of the time and they always say that getting into the home teams end & causing an issue was the aim. Get into the Arsenal noth bank end or the Tottenham Paxman Road stand was what they wanted to do and when in cause as much trouble as possible.

By making an end almost exclusivly for the home team you will invite large group of a teams supporters to congregate in one area and provoke one another. Unless you have a seperate stand which it ticket only you cant stop it - especially in old grounds such as ours.

Allow fans to inter mingle and you naturally disperse large opposing groups - its not guarenteed but it seems to have worked for the last x number of years.

The other thing that all clubs need to do (mine included) is stop people coming into the ground under the infuence. I saw both cas and wakey fans downing bottles of wine literally 15 yards from the turnstyles (exit B i think) who once inside could hardly walk or talk. It would not take a great deal of effort to put a couple of stewards outside the ground - spotters if you like that would refuse entry to such people at the gates. That way all clubs can control the flow of beer once inside.

As I posted a page back if you read, I was referring to the initial trouble and completely missed the bottle throwing.

...and beer/cig throwing?

Is beer not the same as bottles?

As for cigs, didn't see any of that.

Beer as in sprayed. I'm not sure which is technically more accurate. I guess all you saw was 27 Fax fans and 1 confused Hull fan.

Leave the soft lad alone, he doesn't even take himself seriously I think every forum has one. He is obsessed with the city of Wakefield though, our RL team our community stadium, the north stand belle Vue writing emails against us. He knows lots about nothing.
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